We're ALL getting flooded with requests...please reply directly to
Bob, not to TechNet. Thanks.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Steve Gregory <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> You're probably getting flooded with requests, but I would like them as
> well.
>
> Thanks a bunch!
>
> Steve Gregory
>
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> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Landman
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:43 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] More on Toyota
>
> Yes, it's a whitewash job, IMHO. I invited Dr Gilbert to our weekly
> tin whiskers telecon last week. He was very humble and forthcoming on
> what he knew and what he did not know.
>
> He shared pictures of the APP (accelerator pedal module) which has SMT
> resistors and caps and a small SOIC package that converts two
> redundant Hall sensors that the magnets attached to the pedals move
> by. That results in a 1-4Vdc signal. Tin plated connector soldered
> to the board. Plenty of locations for whisker shorts to do what
> Toyota's so-called expert said "can't possibly happen".
>
> If you would like to see the pictures and his technical report I'd be
> happy to share them with you.
>
> Bob Landman
> H&L Instruments, LLC
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Chris Mahanna <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else reviewed the Toyota slideshow and related PR on the
>> Dr. Gilbert debunking?
>>
>>
> http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/document/Exponent_ProfGilbert_8Mar10.pdf
>>
>> As part of their "defense" they have totally laid-out the fault tree
>> and required sequencing.
>> Assuming that it is an under-hood box, with a little material and
>> process information (like finish, solder, laminate, compliant pin?)
>> it appears to me to likely be a quick FA.
>> The fact that there is complete silence about any (IMO obvious) FA
>> hypothesis is very intriguing.
>>
>> Although I have no specific information!, I think it highly unlikely
>> that Toyota doesn't know the root (electronic) cause for at least
>> some of them.
>> If Michael Pecht or one of my competitors has their hands on a
>> faulty unit the public should know the answer soon enough. If not,
>> it probably means tort beat quality one more time (aren't they
>> supposed to work in consort!?)
>>
>> I think it will be very interesting to see how the legislators and
>> regulators handle such a situation.
>>
>> Chris
>>
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