Too bad Michael Crichton is gone.  He was
willing to ask critical questions about global 
warming orthodoxy when nobody else would.

-Joe 

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From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Landman
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:31 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] The Brainstorm: Should the U.S. employ RoHS-like standards for imported products?

Dan Brown is a neighbor here in New Hsmpshire.  I wonder if he'd like to pursue this as a new novel?  Hmm...

Bob

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On Mar 17, 2010, at 10:59 AM, "James, Chris" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Pete - I think you've been reading too many Dan Brown novels........ 
> :)
>
> As I have said and sent to Bob Landman, the availability of 
> information on currently evolving issues is much easier to obtain and 
> we (collectively as engineers/scientists/mfrs) should know or easily 
> find the links into this info.
>
> Back in the mid 90's when WEEE+ROHS started life we were both ignorant 
> to this and to any of the information that must have been spewing out 
> from Brussels. I say spewing out because if you subscribe to Europa 
> news feeds and press releases today you can obtain all the background 
> and early decision making on policies that will carry through to 2020 
> if not 2050. Environmental is obviously a big topic right now.
>
> Back in the mid 90's lead was "bad", it had been eliminated from paint 
> and removed from petrol. (And let's also not forget that RoHS is not 
> just about lead there's the other substances too.) So what better than 
> to eliminate it from the perceived rapidly escalating problem of waste 
> EEE, by preventing it being put in, in the first place.
>
> I really don't think a bunch of displaced and so called politicians 
> from the various member states that form to make the European 
> Parliament would, or more the point could, contrive the scenario you 
> put across.
>
>
> C
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete Houwen
> Sent: 17 March 2010 14:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LF] The Brainstorm: Should the U.S. employ RoHS-like 
> standards for imported products?
>
> It's just a theory of mine, probably unfounded and rooted in some neo- 
> colonialist bias I'm sure, but is it possible that the EU knew all 
> along that RoHS is not environmentally friendly at all, and was not 
> passed with any concern for the environment whatsoever?  It was 
> nothing but a power play, in a green
>
> wrapper.
>
> Consider: With Russia an the decline, China taking forever to rise 
> (and often shooting themselves in the foot doing it) The US became not 
> only dominant, but largely the only force in economic, miiltary and 
> political arenas.
> Seeing an
> opportunity, the EU was founded in response to this (a little 
> competition's a good thing).  But how can a collection of coutnries, 
> with no clear path and plenty of infighting, make their mark and 
> establish themselves as being able to influence global economics?  The 
> major components in RoHS, and the way compliance is structured, 
> required a ground up change in manufacturing.
> By
> required all new material, processes, equipment, warehousing, etc., 
> the only efficient way to comply was to produce all product for all 
> global markets according to EU standards.
>
> In that manner the EU was able to effectively create worldwide 
> environmental legislation, showing the world that they had the power 
> to force the world to bend to their will, and establishing their 
> political dominance.
>
> I know, reads like a bad Marvel comic, I truly don't think Europeans 
> aren't really that sinister, but ya gotta wonder.....
>
> Pete
>
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