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Hi Kevin - yes, we have done both single, double and even post reflow 
rework of the ImAg surface finishes. As you detailed, the ImAg suffers 
solderability degradation with each thermal excursion and with leadfree 
reflow temperatures 30-40C higher than tin/lead, the degradation happens 
faster. The "thin"  type ImAg surface finishes are disappearing due to the 
thermal degradation issue. The use of inert atmospheres and increased flux 
activity help but the simple fact is that we are losing some of our 
process window bandwidth with the implementation of leadfree soldering 
processes. I imagine we'll get some of that process window back as the 
material suppliers work on making their products more robust.

Dave



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Dave, Did your investigations utilize double sided reflow as well as 
single sided, plus secondary soldering?  Do you see degradation to 
solderability after multiple soldering processes? 

We utilize ImAg finish in a traditional SnPb process, and we DO sometimes 
see solderability issues.  Even normal SnPb reflow temperatures can 
accelerate the oxidation on the second side pads before they are printed 
and placed.  The two reflow passes required for double sided SMT can make 
any post-SMT soldering (such as for hand soldering components or wire 
attachment) even more difficult.

Your materials used (flux types & activity levels) can drastically effect 
whether or not surface oxidation can be overcome to allow proper wetting. 
Just as important (if not more) is controlling the exposure of the PCB to 
sulfur compounds or moisture, both of which can begin and accelerate the 
oxidation.  Putting controls in place to ensure proper packaging and 
moisture resistance can go a long way in preventing the PCBs hitting the 
line right-off-the-bat with minor oxidation already started.  This too is 
included in the 4553....

You also mentioned silver thickness, and I have found more favorable 
results utilizing the "thick" designation, not the "thin", both of which 
are allowed in 4553....



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From: David D. Hillman [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Lead-free soldering on ImAg

Hi Ioan! I have conducted a number of leadfree soldering investigations 
with SAC405 and SAC305 solder paste using Immersion silver pwbs in 
accordance with the IPC-4553 specification and have had no issues. The 
higher leadfree processing temperatures tend to degrade all printed wiring 

board surface finishes a bit faster than in tin/lead processing.  I 
recommend you investigate to see if the Immersion silver meets the IPC 
4553 requirements.

Dave Hillman
Rockwell Collins
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Dear Technos,

 

I know the ImAg has been discussed over and over and with the same 
results, very good and reliable finish.

 

My little something now is all the proponents were mainly in high-rel 
applications (so SnPb solder most likely) and I do not remember if RoHS on 

Ag was discussed. I know it wouldn't make sense for this finish not to 
work with SAC305 pastes, but I just want to make sure.

 

 We have, guess what, wetting issues on two different boards, from the 
same supplier. We have tried playing with the reflow recipe, no 
improvement. The batch finished, but now we are attacking a few more 
different models 

from the same PCB fab.

 

So, did anybody have issues with ImAg because they were on lead-free? Any 
particular parameters that are not a happy ingredient, like specific types 

of paste, specific solder recipe milestones?

 

If it were the PCBs, what could be wrong except for the Ag thickness? I 
mean XRF analysis would be cheaper than x-sectioning...

 

Thanks,

 

Ioan Tempea, ing.
Ingénieur Principal de Fabrication / Senior Manufacturing Engineer
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