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Thanks Mike, and thanks to all the rest who helped out with this
mystery!

regards,
 - Graham

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Fenner
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Old reference for silver solder - what's it cross ref
to?

Memory jogged. You are right on your choice Jeff.

Sn05Pb94Ag02 (5%/93.5%/1.5%) with solidus 296 C and liquidus at 301C.

LST is Lead Silver Tin  

There are a number of functionally identical Pb/Sn/Ag alloys in that
zone
and the various National Specs of the time perversely all chose slightly
different ones.

Regards
 
Mike

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of McGlaughlin, Jeffrey
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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Old reference for silver solder - what's it cross ref
to?

I found the old chart overnight. There are 2 silver solders listed that
might meet the 94LST  Ag5.5 (Ag5.5/Pb94.5) with a solidus of 304
C/liquidus
of 380 C, and  the more likely 

Jeffrey A McGlaughlin, CID

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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Old reference for silver solder - what's it cross ref
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I think the 94LTS was the designation for "Low Temperature Silver
Solder"
and was 94Pb/6Ag. I have an old chart for this somewhere but can't lay
hands
on it right now.


Jeffrey A McGlaughlin, CID
Engineering Designer
Battelle
505 King Ave
Columbus Ohio 43201-2693
Phone (614)424-7582

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David D. Hillman
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Old reference for silver solder - what's it cross ref
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Hi Graham - well, ya got me stumped. I have access to all of the
QQ-S-571 
revisions from "B"  and there is no "94" designation in the
specification. 
That drawing note has to newer than QQ-S-571 Rev C, 1963,  since that's 
when the R-RMA-RA convention was first used. The WRAP3 is easy - wire,
RA 
flux, P3 flux core but the 94 LTS is a mystery. If I had to guess, the
94 
LTS is a specific supplier alloy designation that has nothing to do with

the 571 specification. And the "silver solder" reference is no help as 
that could be describing a solder alloy family or could be a slang term.

Looks like someone created a drawing note mutation! Good Luck.

Dave



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Hello Technet
I seem plagued with strange solder questions these days.  Can somebody
help with a cross-reference from an old solder callout to what this
would be referred to as now?  I have a drawing that references:
"QQ-S-571 alloy 94LTS Type WRAP3", and refers to it as "silver solder".

I can get the last version of QQ-S-571 (rev F, before it was cancelled
and J-STD-006 adopted), but I do not see this type of callout.  Does
anyone have something that will tell me what's in this solder?

Thanks!

Graham Collins 
Halifax Production Engineering 
L-3 Communications ES


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