So with such low temperatures are you not going to start worrying about tin pest......................
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From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: 10 February 2010 19:04
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Subject: [LF] NTC RE: [LF] Toxic-free computer
Me, too, Phil.
It is definitely winter here in Minnesota also. We currently have 38-40 inches of snow cover in most areas in the state, some places in the north there is almost 60" of snow.
I get in my 1993 5.7 liter supercharged Chevy 4WDR truck with 227k miles on it that has no lead-free solder connections, turn on the radio and listen to the school closings, work closings, blizzard warnings, Toyota recall information, and laugh out loud as I drive my merry trouble-free way to work, where everybody else is using up all of their PTO shoveling their driveways or watching Oprah all day long.
That is, if their TV works, and the remote does not break......
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From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Nutting
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [LF] Toxic-free computer
Kind of like the weather forecasters... we are supposed to get a snow storm today (Boston area) and everybody is hyped up, schools closed in advance of the storm, doctor's offices are closing early, businesses are closing... HELLO, it is winter in New England! Have we become so sissified that we have to close everything for "safety sake". I'm betting I don't see more than 3" in my area. Ha, I scoff at the weather!
Phil
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From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [LF] Toxic-free computer
Spot on Denny
Best,
Joe
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From: Dennis Fritz <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, Feb 10, 2010 8:06 am
Subject: Re: [LF] Toxic-free computer
WOW, YOU SURE KNOW HOW TO GET MY BLOOD BOILING ON A SNOWY INDIANA MORNING!!!!!!
I am absolutely SICK of the over use of the word "TOXIC". Conjures up horrible
images of all of us being poisoned by typing responses on our laptops.
By whose definition is something "toxic"? Used to be that we depended on our
governments to make that decision. In the US, we have had the "Toxic Substances
Control Act" with a methodology to report the nature of "toxic" hazards -
ingestion, breathing, skin contact, etc. Seemed pretty orderly - BUT IT DID
NOT OUTLAW CHEMICALS AT A PACE SATISFACTORY TO "GREEN" ORGANIZATIONS.
By politicizing "TOXIC" political candidates, particularly in the European
Union, began to be elected for their stance on "TOXIC". The result has been
the RoHS regulations where if there is any chance of harm - eleminate the
substance - our wonderful RoHS regulations banning lead - even if we now solder
40 C hottter and tear up untold rain forests to dig up more tin metal. A bit
more sensible has been REACh - where supposedly there is to be a cost/benefit
analysis before banning chemicals. The whole world is watching the EU unpile
from the hundreds of thousands of applications they have received for subsance
use under REACh.
Finally, I refer you to the the E-PEAT website trying to catagorize the
"green-ness" of electronic equipment -
http://www.epeat.net/
There, you will see the grading system drawn up for the "required" properties of
computers, monitors, and being extended to other electronic equipment. Then,
the percentage completion of "optional" factors give an OEM a Bronze, Silver, or
Gold rating. - Call it the Electronics Olympics since the winter games are
coming this weekend. While I do not personally agree with all the factors -
lead-free, halogen free, etc, I do agree with factors such as easy disassembly
for recycle, % recylced material used, etc.
Now, Greenpeace seems upset with the pace of E-PEAT, and has taken to grading
electronics on their own. Your posting is just their latest bow-shot. They had
a booth at the January Consumer Electronics Show to publicize the the same
thing.
This is not scientific - it is ENVIRONMENTAL DICTATORSHIP BY GREENPEACE AND
WHATEVER THEIR AGENDA HAPPENS TO BE. No companies dare speak up - they would
not be "GREEN".
How about some new slogans - techies?
Relaibale is GREEN - I don't need new electronics every 2 years
It is "TIN-RISK" solder - not Lead-Free.
"TIN-RISK" components give us tin whiskers.
"GREEN" is a halogen containing pigment!
Denny Fritz
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From: Pedro Tort <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, Feb 10, 2010 10:04 am
Subject: [LF] Toxic-free computer
I doubt anyone can assure something is absolutely toxic-free, (remember the
osts to this forum long time ago about the dangerous Dihydrogen Monoxide?)
ut the Greenpeace gurus look to be sure enough to bless this Indian
Greenware".
<http://www.evertiq.com/news/16170> http://www.evertiq.com/news/16170
Pedro Tort
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