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Re: Toxic-free computer
From:
"Marcus L. Thompson" <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:
Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:54:22 -0800
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Last year it was the double-length buses in Seattle which provided
windowtainment for many blessed with a view ;o)

May God have mercy on anyone without a roof overhead when the ice comes...



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Subject: Re:[LF] Toxic-free computer
From: Stadem, Richard D. <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:12:18 PM

> I've seen a lot of street people, plowed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of stephengregory5849
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LF] Toxic-free computer
>
> Hi Phil!
>
> Well here in Allentown, I got my first taste of a Pennsylvania snowstorm. We
> pretty much missed the heavy snow last weekend, but it is just hammering us
> today! Probably have around 10-12-inches so far today! Here's the view
> outside my apartment:
>
> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/February_2010.JPG
>
> I'm just staying inside today, having fun watching people trying to make it
> up the hill on the street next to my apartment. Just wait until they plow
> the street people! It's fun to watch though!
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Nutting" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [LF] Toxic-free computer
>
>
> Kind of like the weather forecasters... we are supposed to get a snow storm
> today (Boston area) and everybody is hyped up, schools closed in advance of
> the storm, doctor's offices are closing early, businesses are closing...
> HELLO, it is winter in New England!  Have we become so sissified that we
> have to close everything for "safety sake".  I'm betting I don't see more
> than 3" in my area.  Ha, I scoff at the weather!
>
> Phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:33 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LF] Toxic-free computer
>
>  Spot on Denny
>
> Best,
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Fritz <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wed, Feb 10, 2010 8:06 am
> Subject: Re: [LF] Toxic-free computer
>
>
> WOW, YOU SURE KNOW HOW TO GET MY BLOOD BOILING ON A SNOWY INDIANA
> MORNING!!!!!!
>
>
>
> I am absolutely SICK of the over use of the word "TOXIC".  Conjures up
> horrible
> images of all of us being poisoned by typing responses on our laptops.
>
> By whose definition is something "toxic"?   Used to be that we depended on
> our
> governments to make that decision.  In the US, we have had the "Toxic
> Substances
> Control Act" with a methodology to report the nature of "toxic" hazards -
> ingestion, breathing, skin contact, etc.   Seemed pretty orderly - BUT IT
> DID
> NOT OUTLAW CHEMICALS AT A PACE SATISFACTORY TO "GREEN" ORGANIZATIONS.
>
> By politicizing "TOXIC"  political candidates, particularly in the European
> Union, began to be elected for their stance on "TOXIC".   The result has
> been
> the RoHS regulations where if there is any chance of harm - eleminate the
> substance - our wonderful RoHS regulations banning lead - even if we now
> solder
> 40 C hottter and tear up untold rain forests to dig up more tin metal.  A
> bit
> more sensible has been REACh - where supposedly there is to be a
> cost/benefit
> analysis before banning chemicals.  The whole world is watching the EU
> unpile
> from the hundreds of thousands of applications they have received for
> subsance
> use under REACh.
>
> Finally, I refer you to the the E-PEAT website trying to catagorize the
> "green-ness" of electronic equipment -
>
> http://www.epeat.net/
>
> There, you will see the grading system drawn up for the "required"
> properties of
> computers, monitors, and being extended to other electronic equipment.
> Then,
> the percentage completion of "optional" factors give an OEM a Bronze,
> Silver, or
> Gold rating.  - Call it the Electronics Olympics since the winter games are
> coming this weekend.   While I do not personally agree with all the
> factors -
> lead-free, halogen free, etc, I do agree with factors such as easy
> disassembly
> for recycle, % recylced material used, etc.
>
> Now, Greenpeace seems upset with the pace of E-PEAT, and has taken to
> grading
> electronics on their own.  Your posting is just their latest bow-shot.  They
> had
> a booth at the January Consumer Electronics Show to publicize the the same
> thing.
>
> This is not scientific - it is ENVIRONMENTAL DICTATORSHIP BY GREENPEACE AND
> WHATEVER THEIR AGENDA HAPPENS TO BE.  No companies dare speak up - they
> would
> not be "GREEN".
>
> How about some new slogans - techies?
>
> Relaibale is GREEN - I don't need new electronics every 2 years
>
> It is "TIN-RISK" solder - not Lead-Free.
>
> "TIN-RISK" components give us tin whiskers.
>
> "GREEN" is a halogen containing pigment!
>
> Denny Fritz
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pedro Tort <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wed, Feb 10, 2010 10:04 am
> Subject: [LF] Toxic-free computer
>
>
>
> I doubt anyone can assure something is absolutely toxic-free, (remember the
> osts to this forum long time ago about the dangerous Dihydrogen Monoxide?)
> ut the Greenpeace gurus look to be sure enough to bless this Indian
> Greenware".
>  <http://www.evertiq.com/news/16170> http://www.evertiq.com/news/16170
>
> Pedro Tort
> uality Manager
> DigiProces, S.A.
> olsonès, 87 - P.I. Pla de la Bruguera
> .O. Box 127
> -08211 CASTELLAR DEL VALLÈS
> EL. +34 937 142 132
> AX. +34 937 142 072
> ww.digiproces.com
> a Sistel Group Company
>
>
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