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Images were taken over the last 4 years. One was taken on the current system but not the new tube introduced at Productronica last month.



Hope everyone has a great Christmas, sorry to the be the first one to say it but off to the play with the fish in the sunshine.





Bob Willis

2 Fourth Ave, Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 4HA England

Tel: (44) 1245 351502

Fax: (44) 1245 496123

Mobile: 07860 775858

www.ASKbobwillis.com<http://www.askbobwillis.com/>
www.SolderingStandards.com<http://www.solderingstandards.com/>

New Package on Package Assembly & Inspection Workshops 21th January ITRI www.ASKbobwillis.com/PoPWorkshops.pdf<http://www.askbobwillis.com/PoPWorkshops.pdf>

Printed Board Inspection & Quality Control Workshop 9th June at ITRI www.ASKbobwillis.com/FAWorkshops.pdf<http://www.ASKbobwillis.com/FAWorkshops.pdf>

Practical Failure Analysis Workshop 10th June at ITRI www.ASKbobwillis.com/FAWorkshops.pdf<http://www.askbobwillis.com/FAWorkshops.pdf>



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From: Paul Edwards [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 07 December 2009 15:30
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Bob Willis
Subject: RE: [TN] X-Ray Systems



Bob,

 What DAGE system are theses images from?

Paul

Paul Edwards
Surface Art Engineering


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Willis
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:10 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] X-Ray Systems

I first started using x-ray systems from Nicolet, then X-Tek and over the
last few years have been using systems from DAGE. I will let the commercial
people talk about features but it's the image you can see and capture which
is the key feature for the majority of users!!

The best advice I can give anybody is don't buy just on budget as your will
be disappointed, a picture is worth a thousand words and that should make
the selection for you, can you see what you need to see and show others? I
know some of contract assembly customers who have purchased systems because
their customers wanted x-ray inspection. The system could not show many of
the current industry problems so it was very rarely used.

When equipment is being demonstrated to you and defects are being
illustrated ask yourself could you do that same and explain to other members
of your staff what you are seeing? If you can't see it they won't either.

Its what you want or need to see is the most important issue, can the system
find current industry problems like, marginal wetting, cracks in PCB tracks,
dendrites, head in pillow, open plated through holes etc etc. Don't
underestimate the time to find some defects, but if the system can't show
and capture them at a resolution that is useful this is a real issue. Also
make sure the support and advice is sound, talk to as may users as possible
on their practical experience. Suppliers should be happy to provide a list
for you to contact.

If you use a system for a period of time you get the best out of it learning
about many of the system features that many people pay for but don't often
use like measurement capability particularly for PoP Technology. Running
training classes and making x-ray training material as I have done over many
years it's also important to spend time optimising the equipment, proper set
up and calibration takes a little time but will get the perfect images you
want and in may cases need during failure analysis.

I have included some image on this pdf file as examples of what you need to
be able to see

www.bobwillis.co.uk/xray/bobwillisXRayExamples.pdf<http://www.bobwillis.co.uk/xray/bobwillisXRayExamples.pdf>

Many thanks and happy holidays

Bob Willis
2 Fourth Ave, Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 4HA England
Tel: (44) 1245 351502
Fax: (44) 1245 496123
Mobile: 07860 775858
www.ASKbobwillis.com<http://www.ASKbobwillis.com>
www.SolderingStandards.com<http://www.SolderingStandards.com>
New Package on Package Assembly & Inspection Workshops 21th January ITRI
www.ASKbobwillis.com/PoPWorkshops.pdf<http://www.ASKbobwillis.com/PoPWorkshops.pdf>
Printed Board Inspection & Quality Control Workshop 9th June at ITRI
www.ASKbobwillis.com/FAWorkshops.pdf<http://www.ASKbobwillis.com/FAWorkshops.pdf>
Practical Failure Analysis Workshop 10th June at ITRI
www.ASKbobwillis.com/FAWorkshops.pdf<http://www.ASKbobwillis.com/FAWorkshops.pdf>


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eli Sarig
Sent: 03 December 2009 16:55
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] X-Ray Systems

Hi all,


We are looking for new analytic X-Ray system especially for BGA and QFN
solder joints inspection. Most of the leading systems use open tube.
However, there is one manufacturer who declares that he use closed tube
-"Sealed transmissive type of X-Ray tube" According to this manufacturer,
the best system can recognize 100nm features size-which is fantastic! My
question: If you know how this sealed tube works, what is your opinion
regarding the differences between the usual open tube and this specific
closed tube? Which technology is better?

Thanks,

Eli.

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