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Joe Fjelstad <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Steve, 
 
Sorry for the delayed response. I was out for the afternoon. It appears  
that you have had a couple of good responses already. I was going to suggest  
Happy Holden's free HDI book which has a clear and instructive chapter on 
signal  integrity by Eric Bogatin.
 
The pad will create some capacitance. From my  experience, the impact will 
not be large and that it will show up as a  small discontinuity. However, 
whether or not it would have major an impact  on the signal would depend on 
performance need and operating frequency. That  said (and I am musing here), 
it would be interesting to define  the boundaries, beyond which there truly 
be dragons. The difference between  a blind via and a small plated through 
hole of equal dimensions, for  example. My gut says they will be different but 
I don't know how much. I  will leave that to the experts with the right 
tools. Continuing to muse in  the moment, however, it might be an interesting 
task to create some sort of  simple look-up chart of rules of thumb for 
common design features for to provide  generalized limits and where the clear 
air, turbulence and "no fly"  zones are at speed and altitude to help the 
designer more quickly navigate  their design.
 
All the best, 
Joe       
 
 
In a message dated 12/3/2009 12:37:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

Hi  Joe,
Characteristic impedance.  Via is a .006 drill on a .012 pad-  after plating
approx. .004 . Regards Steve

-----Original  Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe  Fjelstad
Sent: December-03-09 2:33 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject:  Re: [TN] Impedance through a via

Hi Steve, 

Are you looking for  the electrical or the electronic impact? Current  
carrying or  characteristic impedance? Hole size and copper thickness  will
likely  
dominate the former and land dimensions the latter. 

Best,  
Joe     


In a message dated 12/3/2009 10:28:09  A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[log in to unmask]  writes:

Good  Afternoon,

Can someone please tell me how to  calculate the impedance  through a via? 
Build is a flex - ½ oz.  copper on both sides of .001 kapton.  Thanks in 
advance. Regards  Steve Kelly



Steve Kelly (PLEASE NOTE  NEW E-MAIL  ADDRESS)

(416) 750-8433 (work)

(416) 750-0016   (fax)

(416) 577-8433   (cell)




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