Da, Vladimir, udachi,
Bach to the 24/7 grindstone—roboti, roboti, dawai, dawai.
Werner
-----Original Message-----
From: [log in to unmask]
To: Werner Engelmaier /* <[log in to unmask]>; TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 9:22 am
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia
At some point I was thinking of doing consulting in Russia, so talked
to some of
my friends over there. There is even an on-line forum, similar to the
Technet,
but that was about it.
Werener, may be we should form a "partnership" and try together? :-)
Vladimir
SENTEC
SENTEC
11 Canadian Road, Unit 7.
Scarborough, ON M1R 5G1
Tel: (416) 899-1882
Fax: (905) 882-8812
www.sentec.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: Werner Engelmaier /* <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:03:17
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia
Privet,
I am sure there is—having 65 engineers attend a reliability workshop
on electronic assemblies certainly is an indication of it. Can I get a
consulting job in Russia—not likely given the economy, but that is true
for Europe in general.
Werner
-----Original Message-----
From: Aleks Lozinsky <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 6:23 am
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia
Privet,
I am in Canada. As I mentioned last time in Russia I was in 1989,
although I
visited Ukraine 4 years ago. Originally I am from Sverdlovsk
(Yekaterinburg).
Any PCB activity in Russia?
Regards
Aleks Lozinsky
Technical Sales Representative
Technic Canada Inc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Werner Engelmaier /*" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia
> Privet Aleks,
> Are you in Russia? I do not think so— no '.ru' in your e-mail. Did
you
> attend my workshop sponsored by Ostec in Moskow?
>
> Do svidaniya,
> Werner “ Mister Nadezhnost”
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aleks Lozinsky <[log in to unmask]>
> To: TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>; [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sun, Oct 18, 2009 8:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia
>
> Hi Werner,
>
> Looks like not too many Russian folks on TechNet (other than me and
very
> rare). Last time I was in Russia in 1989. At that time I've had
feeling
> that
> I am leaving biggest jail in the world and was very happy. Today it
is not
> USSR any more and I wish all Russian people success and all the best
and
> hope relation with west will be better. Especially taking in
consideration
> that Russia along till now capable to wipe out humane population of
the
> earth.
>
> Regards
>
> Aleks Lozinsky
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Werner Engelmaier /*" <[log in to unmask]>
>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 8:16 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia
>
>
>
>> Hi Inge,
>
>> you should see all my other travelogs.
>
>> Werner
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
>
>> To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>
>> Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2009 4:50 pm
>
>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Hi Werner,
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> did you try harder? I learned, that they read lots of english
> (because of
>
>> the dominating english on Internet), but they don't dare speak when
>> meeting
>
>> real americans or english ditto. I got ill for one day, and had to
> see a
>
>> doctor. The guide translated from english to russian. I said some
> words
>> in
>
>> english to the doctor, but she just looked at me and shook her head.
>> Later,
>
>> when I passed her room, she was speaking with another doctor..in
> english
>> I
>
>> knocked the door and said 'what? Can you speak english after all?'
-
> 'Of
>
>> course I can, but my pronounciation is so bad. But I can read all
> american
>
>> scientific literature, no problems.' I think it was something like
> with
>
>> your engineeers.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Thanks for the travel report, I will enjoy it tomorrow. Travel
> report! You
>
>> are very ambigous!
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Inge
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> From: <[log in to unmask]>
>
>>
>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>
>
>>
>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:38 PM
>
>>
>
>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Hi Inge,
>
>>
>
>> Interesting. I was in Moscow a year ago, and with the exception of
> the
>
>>
>
>> Red Square area, what we found pretty much agreed with your initial
>
>>
>
>> expectations—I am sorry to say.
>
>>
>
>> Of the 65 engineers I lectured to, a grand total of 5 spoke passable
>
>>
>
>> English.
>
>>
>
>> No evidence of anything but Cyrillic signs everywhere, including the
>
>>
>
>> Moscow airport.
>
>>
>
>> Attached you find my travelog from that trip.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Werner
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>
>
>> From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
>
>>
>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>>
>
>> Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2009 3:22 pm
>
>>
>
>> Subject: [TN] NTC: Russia
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Hi all,
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> am back after a couple of weeks by boat all along Volga river.
> Visited
>
>>
>
>> many
>
>>
>
>> places, from small villages to Moskow.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Remarkable how brainwashed and indoctrinated I've been despite TV
>
>>
>
>> programs,
>
>>
>
>> books, films etc. I still thought that mobile phones wouldn't work
>
>>
>
>> everywhere, expected rusty Ladas, slammering trams, flimmering TVs,
a
>
>>
>
>> KBG
>
>>
>
>> man following me when taking photos near a military missile area,
>
>>
>
>> greyish
>
>>
>
>> and wrecky houses, shops with more or less empty desks, 25 year old
>
>>
>
>> passenger aircrafts, rusty railway trains, stinking diesel trains,
>
>>
>
>> suspicioius people when shooting around with my digi cameras etc.
> What
>
>>
>
>> a
>
>>
>
>> wrong image I had in my head. All quite opposite. Mobile worked
>
>>
>
>> everywhere,
>
>>
>
>> even hundreds of kilometers from nearest community (masts
> everywhere),
>
>>
>
>> more
>
>>
>
>> new cars than what I have seen anywhere else, super modern trains,
> that
>
>>
>
>> you
>
>>
>
>> will not find anywhere in the US, latest flatscreen TVs, noone
>
>>
>
>> interested
>
>>
>
>> in my sneeking around, I could walk straight into KGBs headquarter
> if
>
>>
>
>> I
>
>>
>
>> wanted, the defense ministery had no fences around the huge
building,
> I
>
>>
>
>> walked with camera lifted just outside the President's office
> building
>
>>
>
>> (the
>
>>
>
>> guardsmen took no notice) , modern diesel engines, advertisments of
> a
>
>>
>
>> size
>
>>
>
>> I've never seen before, e.g. a 10,000 sq meter announcement for
>
>>
>
>> Mercedes
>
>>
>
>> Benz. More moderna cash machines than what we have, everything
>
>>
>
>> computerized.
>
>>
>
>> American music everywhere, english menues, english announcements,
>
>>
>
>> american
>
>>
>
>> cars,....I thought sometimes that I was in the US, but this was many
> a
>
>>
>
>> times
>
>>
>
>> much better (sorry to say so, but that's what I thought). No
> forgotten
>
>>
>
>> ghettos like in New Your or Paris or Liverpool, no people hanging
>
>>
>
>> around
>
>>
>
>> doing nothing. No overweighted people. Everywhere a rumbling of
>
>>
>
>> building
>
>>
>
>> machines, caterpillars and cranes. Building, repairing everywhere.
> Of
>
>>
>
>> course, I didn't see whole Russia, but 2,400 kilometers along Volga
>
>>
>
>> gives at
>
>>
>
>> least a good glimpse.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> So, I had to readjust my idea about that country. Furthermore, maybe
> a
>
>>
>
>> very
>
>>
>
>> wrong statement from my view, but I dare say : America, look
up...not
>
>>
>
>> far
>
>>
>
>> from here Russia will pass you (I don't speak of military power,
> which
>
>>
>
>> I
>
>>
>
>> have nada insight in, but welfare.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> This doesn't change my attitude to America, which I like very much,
> but
>
>>
>
>> America got a competitor on my inside.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Nevertheless, noone will care about what I think or say, I'm just 1
/
> 6
>
>>
>
>> 000
>
>>
>
>> 000 000 of the total.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Inge
>
>>
>
>>
>
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