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Hi Inge,
you should see all my other travelogs.
Werner


-----Original Message-----
From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2009 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia









Hi Werner,


did you try harder? I learned, that they read lots of english (because 
of
the dominating english on Internet), but they don't dare speak when 
meeting
real americans or english ditto. I got ill for one day, and had to see 
a
doctor. The guide translated from english to russian. I said some  
words in
english to the doctor, but she just looked at me and shook her head. 
Later,
when I passed her room, she was speaking with another doctor..in 
english  I
knocked the door and said 'what? Can you speak english after all?'  - 
'Of
course I can, but my pronounciation is so bad. But I can read all 
american
scientific literature, no problems.'  I think it was something like 
with
your engineeers.


Thanks for the travel report, I will enjoy it tomorrow. Travel report! 
You
are very ambigous!



Inge



----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:38 PM

Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia



Hi Inge,

Interesting. I was in Moscow a year ago, and with the exception of the

Red Square area, what we found pretty much agreed with your initial

expectations—I am sorry to say.

Of the 65 engineers I lectured to, a grand total of 5 spoke passable

English.

No evidence of anything but Cyrillic signs everywhere, including the

Moscow airport.

Attached you find my travelog from that trip.


Werner



-----Original Message-----

From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>

To: [log in to unmask]

Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2009 3:22 pm

Subject: [TN] NTC: Russia










Hi all,


am back after a couple of weeks by boat all along Volga river. Visited

many

places, from small villages to Moskow.


Remarkable how brainwashed and indoctrinated I've been despite TV

programs,

books, films etc. I still thought that mobile phones wouldn't work

everywhere, expected rusty Ladas, slammering trams, flimmering TVs, a

KBG

man following me when taking photos near a military missile area,

greyish

and wrecky houses, shops with more or less empty desks, 25 year old

passenger aircrafts,  rusty railway trains, stinking diesel trains,

suspicioius people when shooting around with my digi cameras etc. What

a

wrong image I had in my head. All quite opposite. Mobile worked

everywhere,

even hundreds of kilometers from nearest community (masts everywhere),

more

new cars than what I have seen anywhere else, super modern trains, that

you

will not find anywhere in the US,  latest flatscreen TVs, noone

interested

in my sneeking around, I could  walk straight into KGBs headquarter if

I

wanted, the defense ministery had no fences around the huge building, I

walked with camera lifted just outside the President's office building

(the

guardsmen took no notice) ,  modern diesel engines, advertisments of a

size

I've never seen before, e.g. a 10,000 sq meter announcement for

Mercedes

Benz. More moderna cash machines than what we have, everything

computerized.

American music everywhere, english menues, english announcements,

american

cars,....I thought sometimes that I was in the US, but this was many a

times

much better (sorry to say so, but that's what I thought).  No forgotten

ghettos like in New Your or Paris or Liverpool, no people hanging

around

doing nothing. No overweighted people. Everywhere a rumbling of

building

machines, caterpillars and cranes. Building, repairing everywhere.  Of

course, I didn't see whole Russia, but 2,400 kilometers along Volga

gives at

least a good glimpse.



So, I had to readjust my idea about that country. Furthermore, maybe a

very

wrong statement from my view, but I dare say : America, look up...not

far

 from here Russia will pass you (I don't speak of military power, which

I

have nada insight in,  but welfare.



This doesn't change my attitude to America, which I like very much, but

America got a competitor on my inside.



Nevertheless, noone will care about what I think or say, I'm just 1 / 6

000

000 000 of the total.



Inge


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