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Hi Werner,

did you try harder? I learned, that they read lots of english (because of 
the dominating english on Internet), but they don't dare speak when meeting 
real americans or english ditto. I got ill for one day, and had to see a 
doctor. The guide translated from english to russian. I said some  words in 
english to the doctor, but she just looked at me and shook her head. Later, 
when I passed her room, she was speaking with another doctor..in english  I 
knocked the door and said 'what? Can you speak english after all?'  - 'Of 
course I can, but my pronounciation is so bad. But I can read all american 
scientific literature, no problems.'  I think it was something like with 
your engineeers.

Thanks for the travel report, I will enjoy it tomorrow. Travel report! You 
are very ambigous!


Inge


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: Russia


Hi Inge,
Interesting. I was in Moscow a year ago, and with the exception of the
Red Square area, what we found pretty much agreed with your initial
expectations—I am sorry to say.
Of the 65 engineers I lectured to, a grand total of 5 spoke passable
English.
No evidence of anything but Cyrillic signs everywhere, including the
Moscow airport.
Attached you find my travelog from that trip.

Werner


-----Original Message-----
From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2009 3:22 pm
Subject: [TN] NTC: Russia









Hi all,

am back after a couple of weeks by boat all along Volga river. Visited
many
places, from small villages to Moskow.

Remarkable how brainwashed and indoctrinated I've been despite TV
programs,
books, films etc. I still thought that mobile phones wouldn't work
everywhere, expected rusty Ladas, slammering trams, flimmering TVs, a
KBG
man following me when taking photos near a military missile area,
greyish
and wrecky houses, shops with more or less empty desks, 25 year old
passenger aircrafts,  rusty railway trains, stinking diesel trains,
suspicioius people when shooting around with my digi cameras etc. What
a
wrong image I had in my head. All quite opposite. Mobile worked
everywhere,
even hundreds of kilometers from nearest community (masts everywhere),
more
new cars than what I have seen anywhere else, super modern trains, that
you
will not find anywhere in the US,  latest flatscreen TVs, noone
interested
in my sneeking around, I could  walk straight into KGBs headquarter if
I
wanted, the defense ministery had no fences around the huge building, I
walked with camera lifted just outside the President's office building
(the
guardsmen took no notice) ,  modern diesel engines, advertisments of a
size
I've never seen before, e.g. a 10,000 sq meter announcement for
Mercedes
Benz. More moderna cash machines than what we have, everything
computerized.
American music everywhere, english menues, english announcements,
american
cars,....I thought sometimes that I was in the US, but this was many a
times
much better (sorry to say so, but that's what I thought).  No forgotten
ghettos like in New Your or Paris or Liverpool, no people hanging
around
doing nothing. No overweighted people. Everywhere a rumbling of
building
machines, caterpillars and cranes. Building, repairing everywhere.  Of
course, I didn't see whole Russia, but 2,400 kilometers along Volga
gives at
least a good glimpse.


So, I had to readjust my idea about that country. Furthermore, maybe a
very
wrong statement from my view, but I dare say : America, look up...not
far
 from here Russia will pass you (I don't speak of military power, which
I
have nada insight in,  but welfare.


This doesn't change my attitude to America, which I like very much, but
America got a competitor on my inside.


Nevertheless, noone will care about what I think or say, I'm just 1 / 6
000
000 000 of the total.


Inge

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