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"Marcus L. Thompson" <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:39:12 -0700
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The key toxin at the root of all here seems to be stupidity.

I call for a worldwide ban on stupidity.

Anyone second this?

If so, what would be an appropriate labeling for stupidity-free products 
manufactured under such a ban???



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Subject: Re:[LF] Canada bans rosin flux
From: Bob Landman <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:23:11 AM

> John,
> 
> That's right.  Good thing Michael Creighton wrote Jurrassic Park before the rosin ban kicked in.  We'll need to ban the handling of rosin by archeologists, of course. 
> 
> Next on the radar will be arsenic, as it is, after all, a poison.  So... lets next ban gallium arsenide and the led industry. Surely they can find a substitute for arsenic and they won't unless we ban it?
> 
> Anyone care to add to the list?  
> 
> There's a full moon, I think. Perfect timing....
> 
> Bob Landman/H&L Instruments,LLC 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Burke
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:11 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LF] Canada bans rosin flux
> 
> So are they proposing to ban amber jewellery? 
> 
> 
> John Burke
> (408) 515 4992
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Landman
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:03 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LF] Canada bans rosin flux
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Perhaps we should congratulate Canada on their highly responsible stance on this important issue of environmental protection, and urge Canada to extend the ban on rosin to ALL Canadian manufactured, imported or exported goods, to the end goal of becoming a Rosin-Free safe and healthy nation?
> 
> As George Wenger has said, there is rosin in the lumber they have been exporting.  Canada must immediately cease all such lumber exports until they can grow rosin-free trees.
> 
> Until they do enact an outright ban, I would advise other countries to sue for damages due to rosin-contamination. 
> 
> Soldering?  Is anyone still using that arcane attachment technology?  I thought that with the lead ban, soldering had become passe?  
> Mind you, I have heard that rosin fluxes are used with a wide variety of solder alloys, including newly developed lead-free materials.  Rosin has been particularly critical in the successful introduction of these new solders, because many have higher melting points, and rosin maintains effectiveness at high processing temperatures.
> 
> So I advise Canadians to beware the law of unintended consequences....
> 
> -Bob Landman/H&L Instruments,LLC
> 
> (P.S. My mother was born in Canada; so I've had a great affection for Canada and Canadians, albiet waning somewhat if this data gathering leads to a
> ban!)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James, Chris
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:25 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LF] Canada bans rosin flux
> 
> Rosin (colophony) free fluxes have been available and used for years by electronics manufacturers voluntarily wanting to reduce potential health issues for their staff, so why this sudden issue when Canada proposes an outright ban..... seems a little knee jerk .......
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Landman
> Sent: 13 October 2009 13:42
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [LF] Canada bans rosin flux
> 
> What's next, I wonder...  
> 
> Will we all be forced to go back to living in caves, writing on walls (with environmentally safe materials, of course)?  Will our modern world will be deemed too unsafe to live in?  Seems that's where we are headed, doesn't it?
> 
> 
> -Bob Landman/H&L Instruments,LLC
> 
> http://circuitsassembly.com/cms/news/8884-ipc-urges-canada-to-remove-pro
> posed-ban-on-rosin 
> 
> IPC Urges Canada to Remove Proposed Ban on Rosin 
> Written by Chelsey Drysdale   
> Friday, 02 October 2009 16:12
> 
> BANNOCKBURN, IL - IPC is urging its members to respond to Canada's Chemical Management Plan's proposal banning five rosin-containing substances from all products manufactured and sold there.
>  
> The trade group also submitted comments today to the Canadian Department of the Environment in advance of the Oct. 20 comment deadline.
>  
> Rosin is used in the manufacture of more than 75% of electronics products, including defense systems, telecommunication and transportation technologies, IPC noted.
>  
> A ban on rosin would make it difficult for electronics manufacturers to continue to do business in Canada, says IPC. In addition, consumers would likely foot the bill for the increased production cost because electronics manufacturers would have to engineer products specifically for the Canadian market. Even more likely, Canadian electronics manufacturers would consider moving operations to countries that do not ban the use of rosin, resulting in a loss of Canadian jobs, says the association.
>  
> According to Dr. Greg Munie, IPC technical director, rosins are naturally occurring materials that possess irreplaceable chemical and electrical properties qualities that ensure a reliable, safe and long-lasting product.
> There is no known chemical or combination of chemicals that can provide the same functionality and reliability of rosin. Therefore, eliminating rosin would force a change in the composition of soldering flux and solder paste that will ultimately affect the reliability of the final electronic product.
> 
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