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Hi Bev,



According my info. Nortel is doing press fit in OSP.





Best Regards



Reuven ROKAH 

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-----Original Message-----

From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian

Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 4:14 PM

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Subject: Re: [TN] Need clever comments



Inge,

Observation 1: How in the world can you make a connection between tin

whiskers and CAF?!!



Observation 2: If copper is "penetrating" the solder mask, it makes me

wonder what it is doing to the tin overlayer!  I would be concerned about

tin/copper intermetallic growing to the surface and oxidizing.



Q2 Popppycock!  Companies like Nortel and other put press fit connectors

into ENIG boards for years.  Of course it is always a good idea not to try

and put an elephant in a mouse hole.  Make sure the pin and hole are

dimensional matched, the pin is put in straight and the proper force, speed

and assembly apparatus are used to do it and that the end results are

cross-sectioned initially to make sure that it is right.



Bev

RIM





-----Original Message-----

From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hernefjord Ingemar

Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:22 AM

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Subject: [TN] Need clever comments



 

Hi all, need some professional backup regarding MIL quality boards.



Objects: FR-4 Class III double-sided multi-layer boards, populated with

SOICS, BGAs,and a lot of passive components.



Observation 1 : the non soldered board have lots of Tin whiskers on inside

of the PTH barrel. My thought is this: if whiskers can grow long before the

board is assembled, then ain't it likely that even CAF can be generated?

See photo 1.



Observation 2:  Copper has somehow penetrated the solder mask. This can be

found everywhere along the conductor traces. You need a very good light

microscope and a SEM to see it. See photo 2.



Board data: Copper with 0.8 micrometer Immersion Tin. No nickel barrier.

Solder mask thickness not specified.



Application: Typical MIL-883 environment



Q1: What is your opinion about that thin Tin directly on copper? I dislike

the concept. Copper is very mobile at high temperatures, and combined with

humidity, there can be leakage currents and corrosion issues. Even if the

boards are CCd, there is a risk with copper .



Q2: I gave  the advice to introduce a nickel barrier, but our customer

claimed, that they can't because of pressfit connectors and pressfit test

pins on the board. Furthermore, they had heard that one cannot have nickel

platings when pressfitting, because the nickel will crack and oxidize and

cause electrical disfunction. Is this your opinion too? Are there any

relevant testing behind such statements?



Thanks in advance



Inge



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