Are you referring to assembly fluxes? If so, a lot of fluxes contain HBr,
but very few of them contain hydrazine, at least regarding the ones we
make. They are far more likely to contain amines, which are a lot safer.
Additionally, amines are a lot cheaper than hydrazine.
BTW, I've inhaled hydrazine in the past, not during the 15 years I've been
at Cookson.
Karen Tellefsen - Electrical Testing
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Most fluxes which list Hydrobromic acid as an ingredient also contain
Hydrazine. The reason why Hydrobromic is used is that it is one of the
few acids which forms soluble salts with Hydrazine. When the Hydrobromic
and Hydrazine are mixed, a compound called Hydrazine Hydrobromide is
formed, and this compound is not a known carcinogen, so if it is present at
levels less than 1%, it does not need to be listed on the MSDS.
I mention this because at temperature, the Hydrazine Hydrobromide breaks
down, and volatilizes, and is not something I would recommend inhaling too
much of. Although, you can emulate a former US president, who "did not
inhale"!
Rudy Sedlak
RD Chemical Company
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This effect can also appear if the PCBs have been baked...
Then good luck soldering to the PCBs with anything other than hydrobromic
acid...
Paul
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Surface Art Engineering
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Hi Rudy - actually, if the copper and tin form an intermetallic phase
during your first pass thru the reflow oven (which they should) then you
would have solderability issues during subsequent soldering operations.
Dave Hillman
Rockwell Collins
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Linda:
Actually, it is quite possible to get black immersion Tin. It comes from
running a bath with an excess of Cupric Copper in it. I wrote a article
on how to monitor Cupric Copper in immersion Tin baths to avoid this in a
recent PCD&F magazine.
The black color should not affect solderability, as it is actually
immersion Copper on top of the Tin.
Rudy Sedlak
RD Chemical Company
--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Linda Langley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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I know we have had this subject many times before so I did go to the
archives and still can't find an answer. My question, is Black Pad only
associated with ENIG? Is it possible with immersion Tin?
Linda Langley CIT
Training Specialist
Jabil Circuit
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