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we have been using Zestron's Vigon SC200 in a stencil cleaner at room 
temperature..

Make sure you do a gauge RR study on your measurement tool. We used a Brix 
refractometer recommended by our rep, and could not distinguish between 
samples with concentrations between 20 - 35%. Only below this level were 
the concentration results different enough.  We had to dilute the sample 
before testing to get an accurate concentration reading.


Roger Mack  P.Eng. 
Manufacturing Specialist
Parker Hannifin Corporation
Electronic Controls Division
1305 Clarence Avenue
Winnipeg, MB  R3T 1T4 Canada 
direct 204 453 3339 x373
www.vansco.ca
www.parker.com







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Re: [TN] Cleaning a little too much...






How do you check concentration to know how much Vigon to add?

Rudy Sedlak
RD Chemical Company

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From: Skillborg Fredrik <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: [TN] Cleaning a little too much...
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Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:22 AM

Hello,



We have a problem when cleaning populated boards before conformal
coating.

Problem: The color on our labels on the boards "dewet" during the
cleaning step, but only when we have set a new bath. Then it is getting
better and better and after a week or so the problem is gone.

During production we are constantly adding cleaning agent to keep
concentration steady.

Cleaning agent: Vigon US (Zestron), 26%

Settings: 50 deg C, 12 minutes, agitation and immersed spraying.



Has anyone else seen this problem and figure out how to overcome it
(apart from laser mark the boards instead of using labels)?

We have tried to increase the heat in the printers, changed batch of
labels, changed brand of labels, changed ribbon in the printer but the
problem persists.

We have sent labels to Zestron and to the labelmanufacturer and they
have made their own tests, repeated the problem but have no solution. We
can go down to 15% concentration to avoid the problem but then the
boards won't be clean...



To add some more trickiness to the question the problem; it appeared
last summer but we have used the same settings, cleaning agent, labels
and printers for much longer than that. Usually we change the bath every
3 -4 months but we have postpone the current change when searching for
some light in the tunnel.



All inputs are highly appreciated!

Best regards,

// Fredrik


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