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The product sees those kinds of temperatures in use.  It's an unusual
application temperature.

Scott Post
P.O.U. 1415-00M2-00P6
2151 E. Lincoln Road
Kokomo, Indiana    46904-9005
765-451-2983 (Phone)
765-451-0287 (FAX)

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Werner Engelmaier /*
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:30 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] More Underfill Discussion

 Hi Scott,
Why did you cycle to +150C?-that is well into the glass transition
region for most FR-4 resins, and thus renders the data useless for
extrapolation unless the actual product sees that kind of temperatures.
Werner


 


 

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From: Post, Scott E <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [TN] More Underfill Discussion










 
One problem I've seen with underfill voids between flipchip bumps (8-10
mil pitch) is solder extrusion into the void during thermal cycling.
I've seen the extrusion go far enough to cause shorts.  This was in
-40/+150C cycling, so quite a bit harsher than most situations.  Also,
it was SnPb solder.  I don't know if a SAC alloy would extrude so
readily.  As far as how long it took, I can't say for sure.  My tests
typically ran 3000 cycles and I found the extrusions in cross-sections
at the end of testing.  My monitoring equipment wasn't accurate enough
to pick up a partial short like this and, to be honest, I was looking
for increases in resistance, not decreases.

Scott Post
P.O.U. 1415-00M2-00P6
2151 E. Lincoln Road
Kokomo, Indiana    46904-9005
765-451-2983 (Phone)
765-451-0287 (FAX)

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:10 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] More Underfill Discussion

TechNetters,
Well I have been shopping to Class 2 people the draft we all built here
on TechNet of a standard for underfill workmanship.  Some are saying
they can't live with voids that only go 50% around the perimeter of a
solder ball, they want more leeway.  They also say they want to allow
voids connecting solder balls.  Now I put in the prohibition of the
latter because of the statement in the J-STD-030 "Guideline for
Selection and Application of Underfill Material for Flip Chip and Other
Micropackages", where it talks about unequal stresses put on the solder
balls when they is not 100 underfill coverage around each and every
ball.  My questions to you are: 
1) What is the physical evidence behind that statement in 030?
2) What was the magnitude of the deformation?
3) How long did it take?

My reason for the last question is if it takes 9 years for significant,
reliability impairing deformation to occur in a 20 year life product,
that is real bad.  But if it happens in the products with a 2 to 3 year
life product, why should we care?

Bev
RIM


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