I'm curious if anyone knows of a supplier of dummy LGAs for process development and reliability testing, especially daisy chained with representative die. BGAs without balls are readily available, but I haven't seen any with square pads in the little bit of looking I've done.
Scott Post
Delphi
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Subject: [TN] LGA assembly question
Ioan,
Merci pour le retour.
One question more if I may: did you set a different placement force as you would have used for a BGA for example, or did "regular" setting work well?
Bev, sorry I answered your question personnaly, I sent my reply too quickly. To sumarize for others, in my mind QFN are packages with a ground/thermal plane in middle and signals connection in periphery. And LGA is like a BGA but with square pads and no balls.
I am concerned about shorts because this device is a DC/DC that can drive up to 12 amps and I would not see these assemblies burn because of assembly issues.
Thank you again
Regards
sylvain
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Sent: vendredi, 19. juin 2009 15:16
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Subject: Re: [TN] LGA assembly question
Bonjour Sylvain,
I have recently done several boards with the exacly same components, in almost the same conditions as yours. I had ENIG/Pick'n'place/lead-free SAC305. The only difference was I did convection reflow.
They print well, they solder well. I would not dread shorts, this package is more lenient than QFNs. The only 2 special things I have observed were:
- The thermal demand is higher than for regular BGAs. I had metal top BGAs on the same board, still the LGAs were 10 deg C colder. In order to bring the LGAs at 240deg C I had to bump the BGAs up to 250 deg C.
- Hard to control voiding
Since I am not familiar with vapour phase, maybe the above will not be an issue for you.
Regards,
Ioan Tempea, ing.
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Dear Technetters,
Our assembly workshop has to assemble 4 prototype boards where LGA packages with 133 connections are used. I allready worked with BGAs or QFNs but never with LGA packages and I am concerned about shorts/open that could occur.
Provided that I cannot run tests and conditions are as followed:
- ENIG surface finish boards
- Vapor phase reflow soldering
- Pick and Place machine
- Leadfree or lead containing solder can be used
Would some of you be kind enough to share experiences/advices so that we would have little chances to successfuly assemble these boards?
Thank you in advance for your help.
S. Kaufmann
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