Hi Joyce,
Now that is very interesting. Could you see a change in the copper
crystal structure?
Paul
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I saw once in my life due to porous plating (current way too high. I
guess someone try to improve through put). The via just dissolved.
Cross section showed right copper thickness, but not xrf. You have do
mapping to see the copper actually co plated with other bath elements,
such as c, cl, etc. Compare to a good lot resolved the issue. Not sure
if it applicable to this situation.
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Hi Werner,
I'll take a look at the phase diagrams tomorrow for Sn-Pb-Cu system, but
I don't see why a pair of metals (Cu and Sn) which forms a chemical bond
can be "influenced" the third party element (Pb) which doesn't form any
phases (but predominantly mechanical mix) with either of those two
metals.
In a short word, I don't see why all Sn can not be ultimately consumed
by Cu to form intermetallics.
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Vladimir
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Hi Vladimir,
1. If all Sn is consumed to form intermetallics, then you end up with
only Pb in
the former solder.
A: Not so, what you end up with is the Pb-rich phase of the SnPb alloy.
Werner
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Paul,
What you are saying sounds "strange", as more details would require. You
can
contact me off line if you wish, as I'm in GTA area.
Regarding your questions, then;
1. If all Sn is consumed to form intermetallics, then you end up with
only Pb in
the former solder.
2. Intermetallics formation occurs only at the interface, BUT once Sn at
the
interface is consumed, the one from the rest of solder "rush-in"
3. It's a problem if instead of ductile Cu you have a brittle material
as a wall
of a PTH.
Regards,
Vladimir
SENTEC
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To continue my quest to understand copper dissolution.
I have a coupon where the copper in the PTH is dissolved by the solder
during thermal excursions. I notice a metallic interface against the
copper. I assume the interface is a tin copper concentration but then
again I don't know. Understand that this is thermal excursions on a
coupon without any solder paste, component etc. The solder volume
consists of the solder associated with a surface finish. In other words
a low fixed solder volume.
1. Can copper dissolution change the tin/lead ratio of the solder that
is above the intermetallic?
2. Is copper dissolved throughout the solder or only at the
intermetallic layer?
3. Would this be a significant concern for assembly?
Sincerely,
Paul Reid
Program Coordinator
PWB Interconnect Solutions Inc.
235 Stafford Rd., West, Unit 103
Nepean, Ontario
Canada, K2H 9C1
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