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Very long time ago, polyimide board edge provide moistrue ingression if router damage occur.  Coat the edge some how fix it.  Not sure what is current status.  Everything happen for a reason.  Tg 220c board with low cte was the requirement at the time.  
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Sent: Tue Jun 09 08:20:30 2009
Subject: Re: [TN] Conformal coating of PCB edges

Many thanks, as always, to all for responding.

This confirms what I suspected - no real documented industry requirement or
recommendation, but instead a deeply entranched military "requirement" that
became somewhat of a standard practice.  Of course like anything, there is
no "one size fits all" rule for all the different applications.  In the end,
a little extra protection can't hurt, with exception of the card guides and
tight fits.

Thanks,


Kevin Glidden


-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Pauls [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Conformal coating of PCB edges

For our applications, the card guides are metal and are not coated so as not
to interfere with card insertion into rail guides.  Same as you.

I would agree that coating the edges is usually overkill.  I would be hard
pressed to find an example of failures attributed to lack of coating on an
edge of a board.  But it would be too hard to roll that boulder up the hill.
Speaking as one who has tried it and been flattened by the boulder. 
Painfully.  Repeatedlly.

Doug Pauls
Rockwell Collins



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In my previous employment we built military electronics systems,
airborne and shipboard, and in most cases masked off the board edges
before coating to allow the boards to slide into various types of card
guides or clamps.  I never recall a failure attributable to moisture
intrusion through the card edges, and we used to see some amazing
failures in our legacy products.

Keith S. Calhoun
Product Engineer
SoPark Corporation
3300 South Park Avenue
Buffalo, New York 14218
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas Pauls
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Conformal coating of PCB edges

Kevin,
For our applications, if the board is coated, the edges of the board are

coated as well, except in certain situations, such as where connectors
are 
at the edge of the board.  Why?  Well, the time honored "we have always 
done it this way".

Part of the rationale is that at the board edge, you have the glass 
bundles of the laminate exposed and water can potentially wick into
those 
glass bundles, creating problems over the long haul.  In most cases, I 
think that if the boards are routed from the panel, the routing process 
tends to seal the edges and conformal coat is not needed.  However, if
you 
are shearing or punching the board out, then those fibers are not sealed

(in my opinion) and should be coated to seal the edges.

In order for me to change that stance, I would have to have to prove to 
our ever skeptical design engineers that not coating a board edge will 
never create a problem in any environment for any of the 20-30 years 
design life we use on any product we have ever made.  Then change an 
entire corporate culture. 

I am already burned in effigy 2-3 times per week.

Doug Pauls
Rockwell Collins



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No takers on this one, so maybe I will reword it...

How many are requiring conformal coat application to PCB edges, and why?


Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Glidden [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:47 PM
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Subject: [TN] Conformal coating of PCB edges

Can anyone point me to an industry document where this is mentioned /
required / recommended, or is this left entirely up to choice?
I believe most consider this a good and desirable thing?
How do automated selective spray systems accomplish this?
 

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