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Subject:	Re: WAX
From:	John Burke <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:	TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>, John Burke <[log in to unmask]>
Date:	Fri, 29 May 2009 14:52:01 -0700
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Sometimes what the patent office approves makes them a sitting
duck..........

John Burke
(408) 515 4992


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:07 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] WAX

A standing joke?
Inge


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Burke" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] WAX


> Interesting......... they got a patent on insulating solid core conductor
> wire????????? Someone should go patent the butt to make sure they never 
> sit
> down again at the patents office.
>
> John Burke
> (408) 515 4992
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:56 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] WAX
>
> Inge,
> Nope I haven't.  But, Joyce, who is at ECTC right now, may be able to
> shed some light on this from her time at Microbonds, where their main
> patent deals with putting a coating on gold bond wires that allows them
> to touch without shorting out.
>
> On a shiny surface like that you MIGHT be able to determine
> presence/absence by FTIR, but maybe not because of the thin nature of
> the film.  Certainly we have not been able to confirm the presence of
> material in water spots on gold surfaces.
>
> Two techniques that come to mine to try and Auger and/or XPS, but I am
> not even a novice in either technique.  Both are very expensive.
> Regards,
> Bev
> RIM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:34 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] WAX
>
> Hi all and even Bev,
>
> Assume that you polish a metal, in my case five 9s Ag. Polishes have at
> least two purposes. Grind the metal to get a certain level of brightness
> (we
> polish to Ra 30 nanometers). And leave a thin coating that protects the
> metal. Now, in our case, what is left is so thin, that you can't observe
> the
> 'coating'.  Presumably because it's an organic compound of some sort,
> and
> also because it's transparent for our eye's wavelength. Now comes the
> question:  has anyone out there ever investigated such a 'wax' and
> determined the thickness, and if so, what kind of equipment was used?
> That's why I more or less directed the q to Bev...
>
> Inge
>
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