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 Inge,


 ....have nothing myself 
at the moment——how about that skull to 'skoal' with?

werner


 

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From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [TN] Looking for opinions on separation/delamination between copper land and dielectric material.









........> How to improve on that? EASY, do not do T-shock in production 
[slow cooling rate after reflow to 1.5C/sec or less] and in testing go less 
severe or no T-shock at all. 

> 
 

Exactly what I pointed at in a recent message. The most dangerous moment for 
a electronic product is in the manufacturing line!  Good to hear guru W 
underline that. 
 

Looking forward to the TN Friday light entertainments....have nothing myself 
at the moment 
 

Inge 
 

 

 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Werner Engelmaier /*" <[log in to unmask]> 

To: <[log in to unmask]> 

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:43 PM 

Subject: Re: [TN] Looking for opinions on separation/delamination between 
copper land and dielectric material. 
 


> Ni hao charming, 

> That separation can occur during cooling from solder reflow [if too 
> fast=thermal shock] or in your T-shock test [would have been good to give 
> details. 

> Your TSSOP leads are likely Alloy42 [=very stiff] and are very stubby 
> [=very stiff] with SAC-solder  [=very stif
f]. 

> In T-shock it is NOT any CTE-mismatch that causes your problem [even 
> though it does not help, and may cause reliability problems with the 
> product], but the thermal gradients resulting from T-shock and causing 
> component/PCB warpage. 

> 

> How to improve on that? EASY, do not do T-shock in production [slow 
> cooling rate after reflow to 1.5C/sec or less] and in testing go less 
> severe or no T-shock at all. 

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> Werner 

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> -----Original Message----- 

> From: Charming Chan <[log in to unmask]> 

> To: [log in to unmask] 

> Sent: Fri, 29 May 2009 4:45 am 

> Subject: [TN] Looking for opinions on separation/delamination between 
> copper land and dielectric material. 

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> Hello All, 

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> Our guys ran a thermal shock test to verify solder joint reliability of a 

> TSSOP component. The micro-section shows that there is a minor crack at 
> the 

> toe side of the solder joint and a separation(delamination) between the 

> copper land and the dielectric material. 

> 

> My question is, 

> 

> Where did the separation/delamination occur? PCB fab house, PCB assembly 

> house, or thermal shock test? 

> 

> If the separation/delamination occurred at pcb fab house, then, what's the


> possible root cause gonna be? 

> 

> If the separation/delamination occurred at thermal shock test or pcb 

> assembly house, then, is it caused by CTE mismatch between pcb base 

> material, solder alloy, and gull-wing footprint? How to improve on that? 

> 

> Brain storm, and any input is appreciated. 

> I will get the micro-section picture posted once I get it. Thank you all. 

> 

> Best Regards 

> Charming Chan 

> 

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