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With also much depending on the construction and geometry - CTE can impact a sequentially laminated build, certainly where different resin systems may be used for processing windows.  Concerning the dark IG pads - check for skip plating as this is hallmark condition post thermal cycle.  They will solder OK post cycle, but it is shelf life that is impacted, as well as potential adhesion issues depending on the copper pad condition under the IG. 



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-----Original Message-----

From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Werner Engelmaier /*

Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:03 AM

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Subject: Re: [TN] PCB baking



 Hi Rob, 

No 'baking ' benefit is likely from baking above Tg; however, I am really concerned about solderability as well as damage to the PCB resin, sitting this long above Tg with its large CTE.



Werner





 





 



-----Original Message-----

From: Rob Strecker <[log in to unmask]>

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Sent: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:54 am

Subject: Re: [TN] PCB baking





















I have read the same thing. 105 - 125C around 4 hours.  Our PCB supplier has had 

issues with the pressing time in there process and we are seeing more 

delamination on our boards again.  They have recommended we bake our existing 

stock, 5 boards stacked in the oven, at 180C for 2 hours (including ramp).  My 

main concern is the solderability of the ENIG finish after this baking profile.  

They have shown me some pictures after bake and the gold is darkening.  They are 

asking us if this is acceptable because the boards passed a solder dip test.  We 

are going to bake some boards ourselves, paste and reflow to see the impact.  

Any thoughts on the 180C bake temp?  It seem as though they want the bake 

temperature above the Tg temp (170) not sure why?



Rob Strecker 



-----Original Message-----

From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Werner Engelmaier /*

Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:57 AM

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Subject: Re: [TN] PCB baking



 Hi Ioan,

No there is not, and there really cannot be.

The temperatures used are in the range of 105 to 125-I tend towards 10

5 C, but 

the duration depends on a whole lot of factors. Among them: moisture content 

[bake time ranging from 0 to 24 hours plus], construction [thickness, P/G layer 

location, PCB resin, resin content, PTH/via pitch/diameter], reflow 

process/temperature, etc.

My recommendation is to determine it yourself on some coupons supplied with the 

PCBs.



Werner





 





 



-----Original Message-----

From: Ioan Tempea <[log in to unmask]>

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Sent: Mon, 4 May 2009 9:25 am

Subject: [TN] PCB baking





















Dear Technos,



 



I know this has been oftenly discussed here, but I would like to lively up the 

traffic a little bit...



 



Is there any IPC standard reglementing the bake out time for PCBs, in terms of 

temperature/dwell time?



 



Thanks,



 



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