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Syed Ahmad <[log in to unmask]>
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Lee,
Thank you for your response. We will continue reviewing and using info you
provided as we pursue this research.
Syed.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lee parker
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:14 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research

We had five roll to roll double sided flex lines in the AT&T facility in
Richmond. We exited the flex business in the early eighties. The new designs
coming out of AT&T no longer were compatible with flex. The roll to roll
concept can be profitably used on high volume low technology product. For
higher technology product you experience problems printing and plating not
to mention distorting the material. In most cases, a panel flex line will
have an economic advantage. Roll to roll flex will quickly produce one of
two results a lot of product or a lot of scrap.

Best regards
Lee
J. L. Parker Ph. D.
JLP Consultants LLC
804 779 3389

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Kondner<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
  To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research


  Hi,

   

   I was out at APEX last week and I saw the Roll to Roll stuff from a
company
  in the UK. I brought back a sample, see below. I was looking for 1 x 36
inch
  PCBs once, this would do it.

   

    The basic inkjet head which drives the process is a 70um head so keep
that
  in mind when designing track and space rules. Use increments of the basic
  head.

   

    Platting is thin, 30mOhm sheet resistance. . A 1 foot 10mil trace is 36
  ohms.

   

    Also, the process is VERY compatible with short runs and prototypes.

   

  Neat Stuff.

   

  Bob Kondner

   

  1mm 



   

   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
  Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:23 AM
  To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
  Subject: Re: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research

   

  R-T-R processing is fast becoming one of the leading electronics

  processes. PEN, Polyester, and Polyimide flex circuitry, even some

  rigid-flex circuitry is being processed in a roll that runs continuously

  through the production line. It requires special techniques and

  knowledge, but provides tremendous cost-cutting advantages from a

  process standpoint. Nearly all RFID and embedded chip-in-flex processes

  utilize RTR processing.

   

  -----Original Message-----

  From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Syed Ahmad

  Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 4:08 AM

  To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

  Subject: Re: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research

   

  Roll-to-Roll: Making systems on a continuously running roll of substrate

  material, like web-printing of a newspaper, rather than individual

  panels or

  singulated PCBs. Obviously the substrate will need to be flexible, and

  the

  electronics and the interconnection will need to be tolerant of flexure.

  The

  roll will be singulated at the end of the process. A better definition

  is

  welcome. 

   

  -----Original Message-----

  From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian

  Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:05 PM

  To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

  Subject: Re: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research

   

  I have no idea what you are talking about. Please elaborate.

   

  I presume you are not talking about dinner rolls or jelly rolls or wire

  rolls (closer?)  Sorry couldn't resist.

  Bev

  RIM

   

  -----Original Message-----

  From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Syed Ahmad

  Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:17 PM

  To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

  Subject: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research

   

  Dear Tech-Netters,

  Any references on roll-to-roll "research" consultants?

  Thanks.

  Syed Sajid Ahmad, Manager of Engineering Services

  Center for Nanoscale Science and Engineering (CNSE)

  North Dakota State University (NDSU)

  1805 NDSU Research Park, Fargo ND 58102

  Phone 701 231 5880 http://www.ndsu.edu/cnse/<http://www.ndsu.edu/cnse/>

   

   

   

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