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Nah, I have seen Doug shoot a firearm and there is no reason to be concern 
(especially if he is using lead-free ammunition).

Dave



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Or a muzzle flash...

Ouch!

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Hi Joyce! Authority??????? I am just a lowly engineer trying to find the
light at the end of the tunnel without having all the alligators in the
swamp get me first. My luck will be that the light at the end of the
tunnel is Doug driving a train!

Dave



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Ha, the authority is spoken!

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Hi Joyce - my response would "it depends" (and Doug gets another Diet
Mt.
Dew) as Rockwell Collins utilizes immersion silver pwb surface finishes
on
many IPC Class 3 type products with no reliability issues.

Dave



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"ImAG finishes have a 12-month shelf life in a controlled environment
(<35[degrees]C/<85[degrees] RH), which can be significantly shortened
when exposed to air pollution with high sulfur and chlorine content.
Silver embrittlement Embrittlement

A general set of phenomena whereby materials suffer a marked decrease in
their ability to deform (loss of ductility) or in their ability to
absorb energy during fracture (loss of toughness), with little change in
other mechanical properties, such  ([Ag.sub.3]Sn intermetallics) of
solder joints may occur when the finish thickness exceeds IPC-4553
recommendations and Pb-free, high silver content solders are used. ImAG
is not recommended for high-reliability assemblies that must meet
IPC-6010 Class 3 requirements, but is acceptable for Classes 1 and 2."

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Will+discoloration+tarnish+ImAg+reliabilit
y%3F+Watch+for+silver...-a0193896272

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 Hi Vlad,
I cannot comment on your specific case, but look at the pics below to
see
Ag-embrittlement.
Sorry 'Netters, IPC strips pics.

Werner

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