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I think both you and Vladimir are correct.  If the bond
Ingemar,



I think both you and Vladimir are correct.  If the bond sits are room

temperature without any power cycling or mechanical stress it probably

won't degrade.  I assume Vladimir has seen the same kinds of failures

I've seen and there has always been a thermal and/or mechanical stress

associated with the failures.



Regards,

George

George M. Wenger

Andrew Wireless Solutions

Senior Principal FMA / Reliability Engineer

40 Technology Drive, Warren, NJ 07059

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-----Original Message-----

From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:15 PM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [TN] Gold/Tin Intermetallics, why are we afraid?



You mean that such a bond degrades even if just being in constant room 

temperature and no power switching?

Inge





----- Original Message ----- 

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To: "TechNet E-Mail Forum" <[log in to unmask]>; "Inge" 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:07 PM

Subject: Re: [TN] Gold/Tin Intermetallics, why are we afraid?





> Hi Inge,

>

> Yes, the intermetallics itself is strong, BUT it doesn't count, as all



> failures I've seen goes at the tin/intermetallics interface. The

larger 

> were the platelets, the worse it looked.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vladimir

> ------Original Message------

> From: Inge

> Sender: TechNet

> To: [log in to unmask]

> ReplyTo: TechNet E-Mail Forum

> ReplyTo: Inge

> Sent: Apr 14, 2009 16:55

> Subject: [TN] Gold/Tin Intermetallics, why are we afraid?

>

> These infamous IMCs are like parias or ghosts in most people's mind in

our

> business. I shocked our production guys recently by giving the advice

to 

> let

> the boards go on. Large crystals and bad looking. But I always  try to



> avoid

> exaggerations. If no serious temp changes are predicted, nor any

severe

> power switching, why rework and risk introducing failures?  The actual

> components were very hard to rework, the cost had been unacceptable. I

can

> see many of you get  the coffee wrong. I don't mean to spread quality

> distractions, I talk about very few boards and a unique situation. My

> statement was based on the fact that a gold tin intermetallic bond is

> extremly strong and can last long, if not exposed to what I pointed at

> earlier. I expect to be hammered down in the shop floor until only the



> nose

> is visible....

>

> Inge

>

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