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to stickle a little more: it's not the brewsky that is perfect, it's just water with some tasty adds. It's your THIRST that is perfect for just that moment. On Thursday I will embarque M/S River Cloud for a 8 days tour on the channels and rivers in Holland and Belgium. If my curiosity is in perfect condition, that will be some nice days.  We are some 80 persons who have charted the vessel. We also plan a tour from Passau to Budapest. See you onboard in April next year? All speak about the crisis and all problems around, so we decided to go against the stream and do something positive.
Inge
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  Subject: Re: [TN] European Union Council Directive 80/181/EEC (Metric Directive) - NTC


  Inge,
  you are a stickler--as engineers we KNOW that nothing is PERFECT--but 1/3 litter of your favorite brewski on a hot afternoon comes damn close.

  Werner






  -----Original Message-----
  From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
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  Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 3:59 pm
  Subject: Re: [TN] European Union Council Directive 80/181/EEC (Metric Directive) - NTC


  you said perfect? Have to disappoint you. There is nothing such. If we get into such a world, we will all fade away. It's the imperfection that gives us energy. 
  Inge 
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    Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:39 PM
    Subject: Re: [TN] European Union Council Directive 80/181/EEC (Metric Directive) - NTC


    Inge,
    Some of what you say is true in Sweden [Scandinavia], but not necessarily in the rest of Europe. One reason my wife has trouble with my mother's recipes, is because they are in dkg (=100 mg), not teaspoons.
    But what really hurts is the beer comment---33cl is a perfect 1/3 of a liter [not too much and not too little] and is called a 'Seidl' in austria and parts of Germany.

    Werner





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    From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
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    Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 2:19 pm
    Subject: Re: [TN] European Union Council Directive 80/181/EEC (Metric Directive) - NTC


    Noone is perfect, not even in Europe. If I go to the timberyard to buy some boards, let's say 10 meters of dimension 25x100 mm, they will just look at me as being stupid. You see, THICKNESS is still in inches, but WIDTH in millimeters. So, I must say 10 meters 1"x100 mm. If they are very modern, you may ask for 22 mm or 28 mm, and then you get 25 mm, which is one inch. And nearly all builders say 2 inch nails, 3 inch nails etc, but the length is in millimeters. And the tire pressure ought to be kPa, but all say kg (kilogram). And we sin every day by saying that the barometer shows 700 millimeters instead of Pa. And we say that the wind speed is nn knots instead of m/s. And all millions of folding rules we have here are named 'inch tools' and not meter tools. And the beer is 33 cl and not an even multiple of 1000 cl. And cooks use teaspoons and not milligrams. And not one normal man dare say his BMW got nn kilowatts. And textiles and an silts are name with mesh and not openings per centimeter. And diamonds are valued in carat, which is a little nut. I could go on until you fell asleep. 
     
    Viva the imperfection! 
     
    Inge 
     
    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Whiteman" <[log in to unmask]> 
    To: <[log in to unmask]> 
    Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:00 PM 
    Subject: Re: [TN] European Union Council Directive 80/181/EEC (Metric Directive) - NTC 
     
    Remember, whether it's 9.8 m/sec2 or 32.2 ft/sec2, it's still 1 G. 
     
    Lee Whiteman, PMP 
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    From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad 
    Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:03=2 0PM 
    To: [log in to unmask] 
    Subject: Re: [TN] European Union Council Directive 80/181/EEC (Metric Directive) - NTC 
     
    Steve 
     
    Your note reminded me of one the worst modifications made to the English 
    system and that was the decimal inch. This allowed users to think they had 
    a metric system equivalent and did not need to make the change, which was a 
    BIG mistake. 
     
    Let go crash some more Mars explorers... ;-) 
     
    Cheers, 
    Joe 
     
     
    In a message dated 4/14/2009 8:57:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
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    Mike, 
     
    As a similar aside, I have had many 'knowledgeable' individuals verbally 
    refer to a 'mm' [millimeter] as a 'mil'.... ouch! 
     
    Let me assure you, that when bonding '1 mil' gold wire, I am referring to 
    '0.001 inch'. 'One mil' is so much easier to say than 25.4 µm [or microns] 
    ....[yes, I know all the arguments, but the real problem comes in when 
    people do not pay attention to labels. In the olden days of chalk board 
    and 
    slate, we were taught to 'mind our labels' when it came to math. Alas, 
    ignorance is bliss.] 
     
    Should anyone have any 1 mm gold wire they wish to dispose of,20I would 
    gladly put it into my unemployment fund!! I would even spring for 
    shipping!! 
     
    We'll get there eventually. 
     
    Steve 
     
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