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TIMOTHY MCGRADY <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:55:42 -0400
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0.1% by weight is a wt/wt limit and equals 1000 mg/kg.  0.1 mg/kg is also a
wt/wt limit, but equals 0.00001% by weight.  So the limits differ by a
factor of 10000.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scott Xe
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:24 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] REACH and DMF limits

Dewey,

As an electronics engineer, I am unsure the actual differences between these
two limits.  Are they the same and just expressed differently by intent?
Could you please shed light on it to me.

Thanks,

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
(EHCOE)
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:07 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] REACH and DMF limits

Watch it James you're reaching into my field now.
Dewey

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James, Chris
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:02 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] REACH and DMF limits

You missed the point - Scott was talking about the units of measure not
the actual figures.

A w/w measurement unit is not a technically correct unit to use in the
DMF directive, because as you say the substance is normally "holstered"
in the item.


-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
Sent: 29 April 2009 15:53
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] REACH and DMF limits

James,
If you are talking about a 0.1% w/w then that would be 0.001 kg/kg or 1
g/kg or 1000 mg/kg.  This is certainly much bigger than 0.1 mg/kg. And
for DMF they are looking for this in holsters (both real leather and
fake leather), so it is almost the entire weight of the article, so I
don't see what you are really getting at.
Bev
RIM

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James, Chris
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:48 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] REACH and DMF limits

w/w (or w/v, v/v )is us
With respect that's an imprecise answer;

w/w (or w/v, v/v )is used where you are considering the % presence in a
compound or substance.

In the DMF this isn't (in the majority case) the case so can't class as
a w/w measurement.

  

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
Sent: 29 April 2009 14:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] REACH and DMF limits

Because they are more concerend about DMF.
Bev
RIM 

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scott Xe
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:54 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [LF] REACH and DMF limits

The limit of 0.1% w/w is used in REACH regulation while 0.1 mg/kg of the
weight of the product or part of the product used in DMF directive.
They all are of chemical requirements and DMF may eventually fall into
Restricted substances of REACH regulation.  Why do they use different
unit?

Thanks and regards,

Scott

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