Phlogiston?
:)
Regards
Mike
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Bath Salts
Well, I may be 76, but I remember, as a 12 y-o boy, in our first-year
chemistry class, putting some potassium nitrate in a test tube and
heating it. A glowing wood splint introduced in the tube suddenly burst
into flames. Now I wonder where that oxygen came from that caused this?
Maybe inorganic chemistry has changed its rules in the intervening 64
years??? :-)
Brian
R Sedlak wrote:
> This is the reverse of my experience. I am used to Nitrites oxidizing to
Nitrates, not vice versa. And to produce Nitrides in the presence of air I
suspect might take extraspiritual influence.
>
> Rudy Sedlak
> RD Chemical.
>
>
> --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> From: Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TN] Bath Salts
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 12:31 AM
>
> With such oxidising substances at 300°C, the excitement would not be
> long in coming. :-) I suggest adding some charcoal and sulfur to the mix
> while you're about it! :-D Incidentally, the nitrates would become
> nitrites and then nitrides in time, so the mix wouldn't be stable, anyway!
>
> Brian
>
> John Maxwell wrote:
>> Rudy,
>> I always enjoyed watching chemical reactions in an exciting way at a safe
> distance when I was in the Air Force. Some were 1000# gravity bombs and
those
> required a rather large safe viewing distance.
>> John Maxwell
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "R Sedlak"
> <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TN] Bath Salts
>>
>>
>>> Chris:
>>> The exact formula is not critical, do not sweat it, pick mid values
> and go with it.
>>> BUT, do realize this stuff is NOT mother's milk, and in fact,
> could corrode virtually any metal except 300 series stainless steel, and
will
> react, perhaps in an "exciting way", with organics spilled into the
> bath.
>>> The big advantage of the Dow Corning stuff it is so benign, and
> won't corrode, or react in exciting ways.
>>> Rudy Sedlak
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Chris Mahanna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> From: Chris Mahanna <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: [TN] Bath Salts
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 1:20 PM
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there is extra fairy dust in bath salts (other
> than
>>> anticake and pink food coloring)? For that matter, what's
> anticake?
>>> I need to run liquid thermal shock testing at 300C. We've been
> using Dow
>>> Corning 710. In an open system, kinda cost prohibitive.
>>>
>>> I gather from MSDSs that we can mix a eutectic somewhere around:
>>>
>>> Potassium Nitrate: 40-50%
>>> Sodium Nitrate: 10-20%
>>> Sodium Nitrite: 30-40%
>>>
>>> Extra credit to any mixing experts that know the exact formula for
> ~200-350C.
>>> I can source the salts a couple blocks away for $, or the mix from
> across the
>>> country for $$$$$.
>>> I'd much prefer going down the street.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
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