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This is the reverse of my experience.   I am used to Nitrites oxidizing to Nitrates, not vice versa.   And to produce Nitrides in the presence of air I suspect might take extraspiritual influence.

Rudy Sedlak
RD Chemical.


--- On Fri, 3/13/09, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] Bath Salts
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 12:31 AM

With such oxidising substances at 300°C, the excitement would not be
long in coming. :-) I suggest adding some charcoal and sulfur to the mix
while you're about it! :-D Incidentally, the nitrates would become
nitrites and then nitrides in time, so the mix wouldn't be stable, anyway!

Brian

John Maxwell wrote:
> Rudy,
> I always enjoyed watching chemical reactions in an exciting way at a safe
distance when I was in the Air Force. Some were 1000# gravity bombs and those
required a rather large safe viewing distance.
> 
> John Maxwell
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "R Sedlak"
<[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [TN] Bath Salts
> 
> 
>> Chris:
>> The exact formula is not critical, do not sweat it, pick mid values
and go with it.
>> BUT, do realize this stuff is NOT mother's milk, and in fact,
could corrode virtually any metal except 300 series stainless steel, and will
react, perhaps in an "exciting way", with organics spilled into the
bath.
>> The big advantage of the Dow Corning stuff it is so benign, and
won't corrode, or react in exciting ways.
>> 
>> Rudy Sedlak
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Chris Mahanna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> From: Chris Mahanna <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: [TN] Bath Salts
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 1:20 PM
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Does anyone know if there is extra fairy dust in bath salts (other
than
>> anticake and pink food coloring)?  For that matter, what's
anticake?
>> 
>> I need to run liquid thermal shock testing at 300C.  We've been
using Dow
>> Corning 710.  In an open system, kinda cost prohibitive.
>> 
>> I gather from MSDSs that we can mix a eutectic somewhere around:
>> 
>> Potassium Nitrate: 40-50%
>> Sodium Nitrate: 10-20%
>> Sodium Nitrite: 30-40%
>> 
>> Extra credit to any mixing experts that know the exact formula for
~200-350C.
>> 
>> I can source the salts a couple blocks away for $, or the mix from
across the
>> country for $$$$$.
>> I'd much prefer going down the street.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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