Following this thread on a phone whilst on holliday may mean I've
missed some bits.
I comment from the UK perspective.
Glasses are PPE and as such they are considered to be the last resort.
When we do the risk assessment for any process the elimination of the
process or the risk associated with the process is the first thing to
be considered.
I am surprised at the number of companies on this forum that consider
the process of walking across their shop floor so hazardous that
operators must wear PPE to do so.
I have this picture in my head of projectiles whizzing around in these
production areas.
To me a general rule of wearing protective glasses everywhere shows a
lack of proper risk assessment and management on anything like a
normal electronics manufacuring environment.
Rex
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On 9 Mar 2009, at 16:52, "Roger Mack" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Thanks John, you express my concerns very thoroughly. We have alway
> used
> safety glasses where the chemicals or equipment demanded their use.
> The
> process of adopting a new policy to use glasses everywhere does need
> some
> common sense. Often these rules were created for other divisions of
> the
> company that are unrelated to the electronics industry, or a quick fix
> from a safety committee, and should not be blindly accepted without
> consideration for the needs and concerns within our local processes.
> All
> of the input received will help a great deal to show what is accepted
> practice where similar processes are used. I did not want to jump to
> any
> conclusions prematurely (I hate wearing glasses myself) , and the
> comments
> recieved give a variety of solutions from how to incorporate this
> policy
> while using glasses, to a variety of solutions that retain the current
> method for visual inspection.
>
> Just like deciding when gloves are no longer clean, there is not
> likely a
> solution that will keep everyone happy, or 100% safe, but it is
> worth the
> time to consider what we ask our operators to endure for their entire
> shift.
> Thank you all,
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> John Goulet <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
> 2009-03-08 20:07
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> To Roger
>
> You are correct, the safety glass policy instituted by companies
> become a
> big problem when not implemented with common sense.
>
> The company has the right to go beyond OSHA requirements and for
> simplicity dictate that everyone off the main aisle must wear safety
> glasses for easy enforcement. This causes more frustration and
> unecessary
> stress on SMT operators and other know that safety glasses is not
> required
> for many jobs. Those who don't normally wear glasses are annoyed and
> if
> your trying to see and work with very small SMT components it is very
> frustrating.
>
> We do require safety glasses when cleaning stencils where chemicals or
> alcohol is used. OSHA requires safety glasses for good reason but and
> areas that require safety glasses should be marked by tape on the
> floor to
> designate these areas.
>
> You correct as long as an operator is soldering under a Luxo light or
> microscope then th ey have the required glass barrier between their
> eyes
> and the handsolder operation.
>
> Getting the mangement and auditors to take a common sense approach
> can be
> a challange. As you said you can't effectively use safety glasses over
> microscope eyepieces. The wrong approach can cause people to leave the
> company.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Ellis" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 10:24:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [TN] safety glasses
>
> I don't wish to appear cynical but isn't this a case where that
> missing
> commodity, common sense, should be applied?
>
> In any case, the operator can just push the safety glasses up to his/
> her
> forehead. (S)he will still be wearing them! Does your sacrosanct rule
> specifically forbid this?
>
> For Goodness' sake!
>
> Brian
>
> Roger Mack wrote:
>> We are implementing a mandatory safety glasses policy across all of
>> manufacturing. This will replace the requirement for use in just
>> designated areas.
>>
>> How do you handle the use of microscopes with a safety glasses
>> policy?
> Are
>> inspectors allowed to remove glasses while using microscopes? The
> current
>> issued glasses leave your eye too far from the eyepieces for a full
> view.
>>
>> We do have a few of the Vision Engineering Lynx scopes, but most are
> Leica
>> or B&L stereo microscopes.
>>
>>
>> Roger Mack P.Eng.
>> Manufacturing Specialist
>> Parker Hannifin Corporation
>> Electronic Controls Division
>> 1305 Clarence Avenue
>> Winnipeg, MB R3T 1T4 Canada
>> direct 204 453 3339 x373
>> www.vansco.ca
>> www.parker.com
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