Graham,
Call me if you ever go on the rocks with that sailboat. I'll be
there with bells on; and an axe, chainsaw and battery powered
circular saw in hand to salvage that lead keel.
I've got a trailer and a 7.3L turbo diesel that'll pull several tons
of salvage Pb. Wha-hoo-ahh!
Some of us have a different type of lead poisoning. It's more of a
disease of the mind. It involves scrounging wheel weights from tire
shops, smelting into muffin tin size ingots for later casting of
boolitts and shot. Those with this disease can never have enough
scrap lead on hand (my PRECIOUSSS).
The gold bugs and SHTF types are actively converting cash to gold.
Forget that. Too much competition in that market. I'm happily laying
in stocks of brass and lead. :-) I reckon those commodities along
with alcohol, tobacco and seed corn will be the currency of a
TEOTWAKI economy. If the end doesn't come in our lifetime we've
still got guns, alcohol and an open flame under the smelter! What
else does a high tech redneck need for a rooting tooting good time?
Blue Ribbon, pork rinds, scrap Pb? Sounds like a dream road trip. LOL.
At 07:29 AM 2/17/2009, Graham Collins wrote:
>Shouldn't we change to something that kills them, to put them out of
>their misery??? Poor fish...
>
>Must be a slow day, this looks like it's turning into one of those "RoHS
>Sucks" rant threads. I was just kidding - although the slang for an
>older style sailboat is often "leadmine"... new ones typically have
>cast iron keels, but that's partially a strength thing and partially a
>cost thing. They suck though, because they rust.
>
>regards,
> - Graham
>
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>Sorry Graham but a fair percentage of fishing weights changed to bismuth
>alloys a few years back to keep mercury contaminated fish from getting
>lead poisoning.
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>Dave Hillman
>Rockwell Collins
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>Hopefully it's grandfathered in, my sailboat has a lead keel... I'm not
>too worried about my son gnawing on it though. And the paint that
>repels the barnacles would get him first.
>
>Maybe we could replace the lead fishing weights with depleted uranium -
>I don't think that's banned by RoHS???
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>regards,
>- Graham
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Nutting
>Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:16 AM
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>And what about all those Dads taking their kids fishing with all those
>lead sinkers? The Bait & Tackle shops will be raided next to remove
>lead from the shelves.
>
>And the scuba divers will have to use rocks instead of lead ballast
>weights.
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>And wheel balancing weights should be made lead-free too.
>
>Phil
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>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Upton, Shawn
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>I remember back about 20 years ago, going to Gettysburg and watching
>people try to find old bullets in the ground. I find it interesting
>that lead is stable enough to stay in topsoil for decades, yet seemingly
>absorbed into the bloodstream very easily. Yet, unless if I am
>mistaken, there are little precautions for handling solid lead (based
>upon what little I know of OSHA rules for soldering--we went through
>that a couple of years ago and I don't remember anything bad being found
>for us) required, outside of washing ones hands (and presumably not
>nibbling on it).
>
>It's all about lead dust, apparently. I guess old lead based paint, as
>it cracks (UV exposure? Last dregs of solvents outgassing, leaving it
>more brittle?) is what causes the most exposure?
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>Shawn Upton, KB1CKT
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>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
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>Yeah Richard, you wonder where peoples heads are at sometimes.
>
>A lot of people forget where most all elevated blood lead levels in
>children come from. It's from the paint in older homes built prior to
>1978 when lead in paint was banned. Blood lead levels in children have
>declined 89% since the ban in paint and the lead in gasoline. That being
>said, there's still a lot of pre-1978 homes out there that people are
>renovating and not being as careful as they should when they do that,
>and a large percentage of children are still getting contaminated from
>the paint even though it was banned over 30-years ago. Take care of the
>paint in all the older structures and you will most likely eliminate all
>elevated blood lead levels in children.
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>Steve
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