Always do your homework on anti-this-and-that programs (and all other programs that are installed), some are mere engines to run malware or suck up your money in return for bogus software. Registry cleaners can give a false sense of security. Need good firewall, anti-virus, adware/malware detector, and good surfing practices (first three are unfortunate necessities).
Daughter's HP laptop kept getting sick because she would visit sites that have poor security. Finally got her machine cleaned...
Roger
--- On Sun, 2/15/09, Steven Creswick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Steven Creswick <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC anti-this-and-that programs
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 11:07 AM
Bob,
I suspect that what applications you have loaded on a machine also have an
impact when the MS updates come along. I know that I have had isolated
systems run absolutely fine for years - until loading updates, then
everything goes to heck. I back them down to the previous condition and all
is well again. Screw the updates in that situation, thank-you.
For computers which are on-line all the time, you don't have much choice
but
to keep updates going - it only makes sense. In that situation, I don't
see
how the anti-virus softwares can ever be ahead of the game .... unless, they
are the ones coming up with the virus's in the first place [conspiracy
theory??]
I don't seem to have much problem, but my wife's computer always seems
to
have more problems - even though it is updated just as frequently [which is
why she has her own computer now..]. I suspect that it is the difference in
sites which we individually go to. I stay with the technical sites whereas
she frequents the cooking and craft sites.
I just wish that individuals did not feel the desire to impose their
malicious tendencies on the rest of us. Life would be better and simpler,
if that were the case
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Kondner
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 5:45 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC anti-this-and-that programs
Holy Cow,
over 3,000 malwares, 166 being severe. Sounds like the sky is falling here.
And yet this user was disgruntled because the FREE anti-virus programs would
not fix the system. But this user seems to trust the unknown freebies more
than Microsoft.
So an "Angry and Frustrated" user finally spent $39 for a 3rd party
package. (And we know what US$39 is worth now.)
And this same user had Windows Update turned off so Microsoft could not
deliver free fixes to know problems.
Wow, yes, buy a MAC so you have no ability to create such madness on your
own machine. Can someone be get jail time for computer neglect?
Bob Kondner
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC anti-this-and-that programs
The problem was,īthat windows installer wasn't last version.
OK, I went to Microsoft download and imported last version,
but it could not be installed because of no last version of Axtive-X,
so I downloaded latest Active-X.
Now I ought to be able to install Defender?
Yes. And I started scanning computer,
Defender found some dangerous 'malware' without precizing what,
I depressed 'remove all', but got the message that certain files could
not
be removed
because I had not windows automatic update enabled.
I depressed 'turn on automatic update' in the start menu but nothing
happened.
Got a Windows error message, clicket on the link to Microsoft and got the
instruction
how to enable automatic updates. Didn't work, so I went to control
panel/services and
tried to start auto update by selecting 'manual start'. But whatever I
did ,
'disabled' remained.
Went to a forum for win problems, found that a specific trojan named
'Vundo.gen!Y' .That malware
stops you from enabling windows updating. Had found the evil one.
Defender could do nothing, RegCure as well. What to do? Pareto Logics
recommended me to
download (buy) XSoftSpy. OK, I was angry and frustrated, decided to trust
them and installed
that program. First and limited scan found 'Vundo.gen' and killed it.
Then
I made a total computer
scan and found over 3,000 malwares, 166 being severe! XSoftSpy eliminated
all but this one, which
I cant get rid of : 'agent.BX'..But I will find a way sooner or later.
So, Ted, now I start my computer running Defender, then RegCure and finally
XSoftSpy. Takes a couple of'
minutes, but it's worth waiting. My computer harddisk has stopped
'idling' ,
has been very rapidly working
and no more popping up advertisments, and no 'antivirus' messages from
doubful software sources, nothing anomalous at all.
Like being started from fresh OS, and all my installed software is saved.
Thanks for putting me on right track, Ted!
Inge
----- Original Message -----
From: "Inge" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC anti-this-and-that programs
> Well, thanks for the tips, Ted.
> I downloaded Defender, but cannot start it because of a error 0x0070422.
> Windows is sorry,
> but has to shut down the program. SIGH.......
> Inge
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ted Tontis" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC anti-this-and-that programs
>
>
>> Yes Windows Anti-xxx is a hoax, do not click on the link. Windows
>> currently
>> has no anti virus software. Download windows defender, you can get it
at
>> the
>> Microsoft website install it and run it
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/defender/default.mspx
>> .
>> Also with RegCure it cleans the registry. If you have adaware running
or
>> a
>> virus it will not find it and remove it.As soon as you restart the
>> computer
>> it will find it again and rewrite to the registry. You have to find
the
>> program and kill it. http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/malware-removal/
>> here
>> is a good site that will help you out for free. It will take you
longer
>> to
>> get if fixed if they are backed up because you have to post in a
forum. I
>> use RegCure without any problems.
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:06 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [TN] NTC anti-this-and-that programs
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Anyone having experience from RegCure? It's a software that scans
DLLs,
>> Window items, program shortcuts, Registry keys, file associations etc.
I
>> don't know what to think about it. When you depress scan, RegCure
runs
>> through it all and presents a list of 'problems', then asks if
you want
>> to
>> fix them. OK, I select 'fix it' and RegCure does that.
However, if I scan
>> immediately once again, there are still 4 problems here and 19 there.
I
>> depress 'fix it' and selects new scan again. RegCure again
presents a
>> list
>> of problems to fix. How can that be when I have done nothing?
I've tried
>> other and similar programs, and they seem to work the same. Not to
>> mention
>> anti-spy programs and anti-trojan programs and such like. They are
>> constantly warning for something. I have a expensive anti-virus
program
>> installed, but despite that, warnings are steadily coming up with
>> blinking
>> red and dialog boxes recommending me to downloading Windows Anti-xxx
>> program
>>
>> immediately to fix the alert situation. Are they a hoax? Can't
help I'm a
>> little suspicios. Whom can you rely upon?
>>
>> Inge
>>
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