Sorry to disappoint you, Inge. I've seen every single building in the
Vatican!
OK, from a plane on its approach to Rome airport! :-D
Can't say I've ever met Joseph Alois Ratzinger, though, and I'm not even
sure I'd want to as I'm not exactly on the same theological wavelength
as his. I think the only thing we have in common is that we are both old
men and we have both had age-related strokes and we would both be better
keeping our mouths tightly shut. I don't think that is exactly the best
basis for a good friendship. Can I call him Joe?
Oh! I've just remembered that someone in Germany used to call me the
Reinigung Papst, so perhaps I'm on a par with Benedict the umpteenth??? :-D
Brian
Inge wrote:
> Brian is wise as a guru, and he seems to have a finger in affairs all over
> this century. To change a popular fun story, I exchange some names. Here it
> goes.
>
> Let one of the persons be Bev and the other Brian. Walking on the street in
> the big town, Bev notices that many persons nod at Brian or shout from the
> other side 'Hi Brian', and Brian waves his hand. This is repeated even next
> and following day, Bev being a little annoyed: -Brian you seem to know
> everybody. -Yes I do.
>
> -Hmm.. but you don't know the taxi driver coming this way just now.
> Taxi driver : -Hello Brian!
> Beve: -just a coincident. However, we pass one of Lenovo's offices in a
> minute, you don't know any bosses there.
> When they pass the entrance of that building, a gentleman appears and
> heads
> for a big limosine, hesitates a second and waves at Brian: -Hello Brian!
> The man was Simon Shum Siu-hung, CEO.
> Bev gets something wild in his eyes, neck being red: - That was in this
> town, on the other side of the sea you are quite unknown.
> Brian shrugs: -Know most there too.
> Bev:- you make me angry, you..you....braggart. Then let's go to Italy and
> see what kind of guy you are to them.
> So, some days later, they are in Roma. A caravan of state deputy cars
> appears suddenly, escorted by motorcycle police. The second car stops for a
> moment, door opens a little and small figure puts his head out and
> shouts: -Hi Brian, are you going to see the Pope? Sorry, can't stop here,
> see you later.
> It was Mr Berlusconi.
> Bev has not given in, hissing at Brian: -See the Pope, most stupid I've
> heard, you must be at least a states leader to get audience.
> Brian: - I know, so I use to call him only.
> Next day, it happens to be a day when the Pope is speaking to the people
> from his balcony, and Bev has dragged Brian with him: - Now, you little
> lier, prove that you know the holy man on the balcony.
> Brian: - Well, no problems. Wait here, I'll step up to His Highness and
> as a
> sign, I will have my hand on his shoulder and wave at you.
> And so it came to be, but suddenly Brian can see that Bev, down there,
> falls
> to the ground and does not rise. So, Brian says to the Pope: - John, I
> have to leave, something happened to my friend Bev.
> John: -Pax vobiscum, Brian.
> At place, Brian gets Bev on feet and asks what the heck he was fancy for:
> Bev:- You see, Brian, a guy standing beside me asked me this ' Up there
> on the balcony, all know Brian, but who is he standing beside?
>
> Dont take this litterally, Brian is well known only in Switzerland,
> Cyprus, England, Germany, Netherlands, the US and some more places, but
> he is probably not that familiar with the Vatican.
>
> Inge
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Ellis" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [TN] In Search of a Technical Reference
>
>
>> Hey, don't forget that in the civilised world, an eraser is called a
>> rubber. In fact that's how caoutchouc got its name, because it was first
>> used for rubbing out mistakes when writing. Nothing to do with friction
>> between men and women, even when they live in condominiums!
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> David D. Hillman wrote:
>>> Hi Mike, Brian and gang! I'll go chase down Brian's InterNepcon '69
>>> paper and the book chapter segment. Our Rockwell Collin's Technical
>>> Reference database is pretty extensive but I was striking out on this
>>> one. I haven't heard back from ITRI yet and was getting impatient so I
>>> thought I would ask TechNet for help. The reason I am chasing that
>>> reference is that I have finally gotten feed up with addressing the
>>> issue
>>> of well intended but misguided internal/external customers using "Pearl
>>> Pink" erasers as a surface finish oxide/discoloration removal protocol.
>>> The pink erasers come from multiple sources, have uncharacterized
>>> chemical compositions and leave contamination on the printed board
>>> surfaces that have been "cleaned". My co-op students and I have
>>> completed
>>> a small investigation demonstrating the issues using SEM and FTIR
>>> results
>>> on a variety of printed wiring board surface finishes and now I am just
>>> pulling together the external data sets on the topic that other
>>> investigators have published. Oddly, it seems to be a topic that
>>> everyone
>>> fully understood in the late '60s but has been erased (what a pun!) from
>>> the industry tribal knowledge pool. The pumice and ScotchBrite
>>> information has been captured in the external data sets as well so I am
>>> going to include that information in the our paper. Probably something
>>> that I'll publish at one of the IPC or SMTA conferences. Looks like
>>> I'll
>>> be giving the TechNet an acknowledgement for everyone's most valuable
>>> assistance! Thanks to everyone for their assistance - TechNet is such a
>>> great tool!
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Fenner <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
>>> 02/06/2009 06:04 AM
>>> Please respond to
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>
>>> To
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> cc
>>>
>>> Subject
>>> Re: [TN] In Search of a Technical Reference
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I remember Colin Thwaites's paper very well and Brian's, was grateful
>>> for
>>> them, but no longer have copies. I would be surprised if the ITRI people
>>> don't find a copy. I asked them for
>>> an actual reference to some information of the industry legend type -
>>> meaning everyone knows it but not why or how they know it - and they
>>> found
>>> first references in early 1940s. Regards
>>> Mike
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:30 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [TN] In Search of a Technical Reference
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> I hadn't realised that Colin Thwaites had published such a paper. I
>>> believe that his research of the subject may have been instigated by
>>> myself, following publication of the paper I presented at Inter/Nepcon
>>> '69, in Brighton, England, 'New Aspects on the Solderability of Printed
>>> Circuits'. Unfortunately, I no longer have a copy of the Technical
>>> Proceedings but, as I remember it (40 years is a long time ago!!!), I
>>> evoked the problems caused by both pumice and ScotchBrite cleaning,
>>> whereby the abrasive particles were embedded into the copper pore
>>> structure and then the copper was swaged over them. The only way they
>>> could be released was with a light persulfate etch and forceful rinse,
>>> without which dewetting was inevitable after abrasive cleaning.
>>>
>>> Having written this, I then re-read what I wrote in Section 7.2.4 (p.
>>> 76) of my book and found that it's similar in essence but more complete,
>>> so my aged memory can't be that bad! Whatever, abrasives and
>>> solderability make poor bedmates!
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> David D. Hillman wrote:
>>>> Hi gang! Ok, I am in search of a technical reference and my usual,
>>> "always
>>>
>>>> works" sources have failed me. I am looking for the following technical
>>>> reference:
>>>>
>>>> Thwaites, C. J. and Mackay, C. A. , " Some Effects of Abrasive Cleaning
>>> on
>>>
>>>> the Solderability of Printed Circuits", Metal Finishing Journal, Sept.
>>>> 1968, pp. 291-294, (also may be listed as ITRI Publication 386)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have a copy or can direct me to where a copy can be obtained?
>>>> And
>>>
>>>> yes, I have sent a request to the ITRI folks already (International Tin
>>>> Research Institute)
>>>>
>>>> Dave Hillman
>>>> Rockwell Collins
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