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That was a good analogy :-) The day you start understand good Russian jokes (anekdot) will be the day you can say "Yes, I know Russian" :-)

Good luck,

Vladimir 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:19 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC English

Thank you Aleks, 
 
Russian is a lovely language that I am confident I will never really  master. 
A Russian friend fluent in English used the analogy of cloths  to compare the 
two languages noting that English is like cotton,  very functional and 
utilitarian but Russian is more like velvet with  layers of subtlety and depth. I 
have gotten a glimpse of that from  what I know but unfortunately not the full 
grasp yet. 
 
Joe     
 
 
In a message dated 1/23/2009 10:51:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

Hi  Joe,
Like in old joke: "My English getting gooder-r and gooder-r - no  R-r-russian 
accent!". "Spee-cee-bo" very close to real, but use "spa"  instead if 
"spee":)
Aleks Lozinsky
Technic Canada
----- Original  Message ----- 
From: "Joe Fjelstad" <[log in to unmask]>
To:  <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:47 PM
Subject:  Re: [TN] NTC English


I am not fluent but have found Russian  pronunciation is  quite structured. 
If
you know the sounds of the  letters you can figure out  how to say it.

That said, there are  some words that folks say differently than they are
spelled out of custom  but knowing the correct way and using it for  emphasis
"Thank you" is  written phonetically as "spi cee bo"  but is  commonly  
pronounced
"spi cee ba". Some folks I know will use the  former  for extra emphasis. 
Sort
of like "Thank you!" versus   "thanks"


Joe

In a message dated 1/23/2009 6:32:55 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:

It   sounds like you were learning a VERY broken Russian   :-)

Vladimir

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet   [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Louis Hart
Sent: Friday, January  23,  2009 9:15 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC   English

Congratulations to all you TechNetters who've learned  English.  (I think
George Bernard Shaw recognized the possible  existence of ghoti that  Inge 
showed
us.)

Having studied  variously German, French, Portuguese,  Italian, Spanish, when
I got to  Russian and found that the same sound could be  represented by é,  
ê,
or éê, and that ç, in a few pronouns, was pronounced as  ÷, I  noticed myself
getting rather irritated. After a little while,  however,  the thought 
occurred
to me - what must learners of  English have to deal  with?

Louis Hart

-----Original  Message-----
From: TechNet  [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of  Hernefjord Ingemar
Sent: Friday,  January 23, 2009 8:51 AM
To:  [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN]  English

yeah...agree...not  easy to pronounce english   words..
no wonder some people don't  understand a  ounce

e.g   'ghoti'

anyone who can  read what it  is?

It's 'fish'

f as in laugh
i as in  women
sh as in   station

Inge

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