Old Dewey can't see the difference between 'poultry in motion' and what John and I try to demonstrate: poetry propulsion.
/Inge
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From: Whittaker, Dewey (EHCOE) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: tisdag 20 januari 2009 14:50
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Hernefjord Ingemar
Subject: RE: [TN] Possible cause on open
John and Inge,
You two are like chickens crossing the road; poultry in motion.
Dewey
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hernefjord Ingemar
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:10 AM
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the funuity level is such
originuity issue in touch
is more or less forgotten
when Dewity ponbow is tauten
Inge
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Burke
Sent: tisdag 20 januari 2009 00:21
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If more than a flash of Au you seek
There is a bad future and here is a peek The experts here have showed the way Ignore them and expect floods of RMA.
John Burke
(408) 515 4992
-----Original Message-----
From: Whittaker, Dewey (EHCOE) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:09 AM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; John Burke
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Although your response was timely, mine was more winely.
I was referring to the finish with complex overtones of my intoxicating humor. If you were expecting gold flash, but got a substantial (50
micro-inches) amount of hard gold, that could be problematic.
So allow me to be so bold
To warn of all that gold
At times it offers entitlement
And others just embrittlement.
Dewey
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Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:49 PM
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As in Rolex?
John Burke
(408) 515 4992
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(EHCOE)
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:44 AM
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Augh! You can never have too much Au, unless it's more flash than substance.
Dewey
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Werner engelmaier
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:35 PM
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Hi richard,
where do these PCBs come from? Not everything called ENIG is in fact immersion Au--thus, you can have too m uch Au.
Werner
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From: Thayer, Wayne <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:02 am
Subject: Re: [TN] Possible cause on open
My vote says this is not ENIG--it is ENEG!
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:48 AM
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I expanded the images and I am sending them back to Steve for re-posting. I can see a lot of flower-petal patterns, a lot of rod and cone structures just above the IMC. It appears as if there are very heavy gold intermetallics along the top of the IMC, and the gold nucleated back towards the IMC from the solder ball.
The IMC layer is very thin.
The solder between the edge of the soldermask and the edge of the pad causes the pad edge to look like they curled at the edges, but I think you can see that it is just the crack curling downwards inside of the sol der. Full reflow obviously took place because the solder melted down the sides of the pads and filled the space between the soldermask and the curled edges of the pad. In the image taken near the center of the pad, it is obvious the crack propogated through the solder in some areas.
The crack along the entire length of the pad and down the sides indicates severe stresses due to either the vibration forces or the CTE from the temperature cycling, or both. The crack probably formed due to the brittle nature of the IMF, what with having the worst possible combination of ENIG, lead-free solder, and lateral stresses. There are some voids with flux debris above the whole thing that tend to confuse the issues going on.
Steve, I am sending my expanded image to you for posting separately.
Thanks.
Richard
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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:42 PM
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Thank you for sending me the image. Honestly, I don't quite understand what I see. The finish doesn't look like ENIG and the cavity above something that DOES NOT look like a typical intermetallic shouldn't be there, not to mention a "hair-like" something (crack?????) above the cavity.
It looks like a proper joint had never been formed. Can you ask the lab to slightly etch the section?
Regards,
Vladimir
________________________________
From: Tan Geok Ang
To: Igoshev, Vladimir; TechNet@IP
C.ORG
Sent: Thu Jan 15 20:09:33 2009
Subject: RE: [TN] Possible cause on open
About 1.05um
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From: Igoshev, Vladimir [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 9:01 AM
To: Tan Geok Ang; [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Possible cause on open
The info I'm asking about is at the bottom of the images you sent to Steve. You should be able to read from the originals what it says (how many
microns)
Regards,
Vladimir
----- Original Message -----
From: Tan Geok Ang <[log in to unmask]>
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>; Igoshev, Vladimir
Sent: Thu Jan 15 19:53:13 2009
Subject: RE: [TN] Possible cause on open
The service lab has not come out much information at this time. Will input you once I have the information. Thank you.
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Igoshev, Vladimir
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 10:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Possible cause on open
It looks like there could be something fishy in the intermetallic layer.
GA, can you tell me please what is the reading on the micron bars?
Regards,
Vladimir
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:05 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Possible cause on open
Mornin' Everbody!
Well, here in Tulsa, we're just like a lot of other people in the country this morning, trying to stay warm. Right now we're sitting at -10 C. with a wind chill of -15 C. It's supposed to be colder tomorrow...
GA, I have your pictures posted now. They're at:
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Fracture1.jpg
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Fracture2.jpg
Hopefully someone can give you some ideas...
Steve
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From: Tan Geok Ang [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:27 PM
To: [log in to unmask]; Steve Gregory
Subject: Possible cause on open
Hi Steve,
Please help to download these pictures TechNet, thanks.
Hi All experts,
Testing (combine test of 16G at 85 oC) was performed on evaluation boards with under-filled BGAs. Open issue (cracks) was detected only at some corners of the BGA (35x35mm with 1156 balls) after the test. Lead-free process and PCB with ENIG surface finish. Peak temperature is 248 oC with a 65 sec above
217 oC.
FYI, the service lab has not come out a report.
What are the possible causes? (CET mismatches, Lead-free alloy related, material, processes)
Thank you in advance.
Regards
GA Tan
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