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Hi Rudolph,

If I'm not mistaken, a 1.66 Cp means you're satisfying across 10 std  
deviations, not 6. Measuring across 6 std deviations would yield a Cp  
of 1.0. However even with inclusion of outliers, especially for  
printing a high volume batch, reaching a 1.66 using a 25% tol would be  
achievable. What is your std deviation and sample size?

Regards,
Andy


Quoting Rudolph yu <[log in to unmask]>:

> Hi Andy:
>
> In theory, I think the Panasonic SP18 should be able to achieve 1.66  
>  cpk.  But the data that we collected is not pointing to that..
> One reason I think is due to the outliners that we are having   
> difficulties to remove from the calculation. (using the software   
> that comes with the SPI machine)
>
> I was just reading couple papers on the internet, and people are   
> using +/-50% USL/LSL for their experiments. I just wish I could find  
>  some literature that says 50% is the industrial standards.  If I   
> feel more comfortable to set the process control limits at +/- 25%.
>
> Rudolph
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>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:17:20 -0800> From: [log in to unmask]>   
>> Subject: Re: [TN] What are the industrial standards for Solder   
>> paste printing limits?> To: [log in to unmask]> > Hi Rudolph,> >   
>> What's your mean and std dev? With 5 mils thickness for 50%   
>> tolerance, > the USL would be 7.5 mils and LSL is 2.5 mils. This   
>> tolerance is a bit > too high. I think 25% is a more reasonable   
>> tolerance, unless there are > no-loads that you're taping with tape  
>>  on the stencil. This will create > a larger gap, and thus much   
>> thicker deposits. Even with 25%, you > should be able to get   
>> process cap index of 1.66 across 6 std deviations.> > Andy> > > >>   
>> > -----Original Message-----> > From: TechNet   
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rudolph yu> > Sent: Monday,   
>> December 01, 2008 3:52 PM> > To: [log in to unmask]> > Subject: [TN]   
>> What are the industrial standards for Solder paste printing> >   
>> limits?> >> > Hi Technetees:> >> > One of our customers had asked   
>> us to show that our solder paste despoisition> > process is capable  
>>  to acheive Cpk at 1.66 (6 sigma). We just built a> > thousands of   
>> pilot boards, and the SPC report I got from the TRI's SPI> >   
>> machine indicated that the process is able to reach that   
>> goal.......however> > the software sets the upper limit and lower   
>> limits for height, area and> > volumn to about +/-50%. Is this   
>> reasonable to have such a high variance in> > the printing process?  
>>  (We use 5 mil stencil with 0201 and fine picthc> > aperature). If  
>> I  change the limits to +/- 25%, the Cpk will become around> > 1.33  
>> (  4 sigma)...should I claims that we can acheive 1.66, and point  
>> out>  > that the wide tolerence was set by the machine expert, or  
>> should  I limit> > the tolerance spread, and hope that customer  
>> will accept  lower Cpk.> >> >> > I guess my quesiton is " Is +/-  
>> 50% tolerance a  resonable limits for paste> > printing process?">  
>> >> >> >> > BTW  the AOI and AXI yield is in the high 98 and low 99  
>> range for this>  > design.> >> > Thanks> > Rudolph> >> >> >   
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