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Ohhhhh, I dunno that I would go that far.  There are a great many people 
manufacturing with low solids flux, doing it well, and not being perfect. 
It all goes back to understanding your materials and processes, and 
statistically controlling the processes for the proper parameters.  I have 
seen just as many manufacturers use OA fluxes with water cleaning and 
produce scrap with amazing statistical accuracy. 

I do agree that if you are not "adequate clean" (and we can argue over 
what that means) prior to conformal coating, then you have a latent 
failure.  Whether it becomes a real failure depends on a great many 
factors.  As for the cracking over time, that depends on the elasticity of 
the conformal coating.  Silicones are very elastic, epoxies are not.

Doug Pauls
Rockwell Collins



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Re: [TN] FW: [LF] Accelerated reliability model for SAC405/305 solder 
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John,

No-clean fluxes because of there nature will always have SIR problems...
You are never removing the oxides and ionics from the solder joints and 
unless you are perfect in process they don't "cure"...

Best to use a cleanable paste, clean the PCA then conformably coat...

Non-hydrophobic conformal coatings add to the SIR problem because they 
absorb moisture...Also you want a coating that has a surface skin and 
expansion coefficient of the PCA, otherwise overtime you get cracking...

Paul

Paul Edwards
Surface Art Engineering

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Goulet
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] FW: [LF] Accelerated reliability model for SAC405/305 
solder joint creep-fatigue

Is there any information on products with No-Clean flux being effected by 
moisture over a period longer than that tested in SIR tests with the SIR 
comb test coupons? Some customers make products for vehicles and toys that 
are subject to more humid conditions. The No-Clean fluxes used always pass 
SIR which have high resistance values even after 196 hours. However  if 
the humidity levels rise and fall but never to the point of drying out the 
moisture. I thinking that the humid spring and summer months could be a 
problem if not sprayed with a conformal coat. The other situation I'm 
testing is when a moisture sensitive part is used. Tests on three of the 
boards showed that the moisture sensitive part was dragging the surface 
insulation down. When I localized the heating to this part with a small 
Leister heat gun, the resistance across the battery terminals with the 
battery removed went back to infinity. Usually the moisture sensitivity is 
a factor relative to the SMT reflow proc!
ess and
 not an issue in operation. Any info on this? PS this batch was the first 
ones using Pb-Free solder paste and that means I'll have to check if the 
BOM changed to a different RoHs version of this special moisture sensitive 
part.


-------------- Original message --------------
From: John Burke <[log in to unmask]>

> FYI Werner has developed an Accelerated reliability model for SAC405/305
> solder joint creep-fatigue. Details below
>
>
> John Burke
>
> (408) 515 4992
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Werner Engelmaier 
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> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:15 PM
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> Subject: [LF] Accelerated reliability model for SAC405/305 solder joint
> creep-fatigue
>
> Hi all,
> Just to let everybody know, I have developed a creep-fatigue model for
> SAC405/305 solder joints. It will be published in a presentation at the
> IPC/JEDEC
> Conference on Transitioning to Lead-Free: Strategies for Implementation 
on
> December 8 to 10, 2008 in Dallas, TX.
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