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Inge Wrote: "When you come to power supply boards, the situation may be
different."

Yes it would be different, with the tiny balls you are talking about you'd
have itty bitty fuses that again shouldn't do anything except clear
themselves when power is applied ;-)

KennyB

-----Original Message-----
From: Stadem, Richard D. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:27 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Solder balls and minimum electrical clearance

No argument from me, I totally agree with Inge, except for that part
about him being wrong, lazy and obstinate. Not possible that someone
with that much knowledge got that way except through hard work and
experience. 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:36 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Solder balls and minimum electrical clearance

I'm not a friend of strictly meeting standards. How often do  you hear
about problems with solder balls?
In practice, millions of boards are made, with solder balls and without
solder balls. The failure rate related to solder balls must be
negligible, unless problems are not reported officially. Much of common
electronics today is 1.5 to 12 VDC circuitry, which means that the
electrical field strength is very low with the distances you mention.
When you come to power supply boards, the situation may be different.
My idea is to use your efforts on minimizing the voids instead of using
lots of energy and money on measuring the size and numbers of solder
balls. Read this little article on how to get solder ball 'free' boards.
I don't mention the secret, you have to read yourself.

http://www.aimsolder.com/techarticles/tech%20sheet%20BGA%20voiding-%20re
ducing%20through%20process%20optimization.pdf

Of course I will be met with mountains of arguments that I'm wrong, lazy
and obstinate. The last two are right, but not the first...he-he

Inge


----- Original Message -----
From: "Genny Gibbard" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:13 AM
Subject: [TN] Solder balls and minimum electrical clearance


I posted a question a couple months ago about solderballs.  The debate
is still happening here.  I thought I would post a more specific
question regarding how to interpret the standards.
Consider a low voltage situation, where minimum electrical clearance is
0.13mm according to Table 6-1 in IPC-2221.
IPC-A-610 states for acceptable:  Solderballs are entrapped/encapsulated
and do not violate minimum electrical clearance.
Components are so small now, that solder fines are starting to come into
question when they would probably have never been noticed a few years
ago.
If a solderball is entrapped under a component between two pads, and the
sum of the distance from pad to ball and ball to next pad is greater
than 0.13mm, but each individual distance (pad to ball) is less than
0.13mm - does this violate minimum electrical clearance?
The solderball is not connected to anything.
My thought this is a violation, because the solderball is sort of like a
stepping stone in the middle of the stream, that would make arcing that
much easier.  But I am wondering if my logic is flawed?  An arc still
needs to cover the whole span, and the solder ball isn't electrically
connected or contributing to the voltage difference
.
These are usually solder fines that aren't moving.  If one were to
somehow get loose and move toward one pad, though, the remaining
distance would not be a failure.  It is just when they are trapped in
the middle between two pads that each individual distance is a failure.
If the stepping stone idea is correct, we have a lot of solder fines to
rework.  So I am hoping it is incorrect...  But we will do what is
right.

Your assistance in interpreting the standards is much appreciated.

Genny

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