Here is a way off the wall suggestion...why not use TS16949 (Automotive
Standard for Quality) and the TS16949 audit system with IPC
requirements?
Best Regards,
eric
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dennis Fritz
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:42 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] NADCAP and the issue of quality products at low prices.
I think the bigger issue here is "How can I be sure that I am getting
quality boards from my supplier, (read that - from a location I can
audit, but can't watch every day).?? The reality is that buying boards
at attractive prices, means that they come from offshore, a much harder
place to control quality than in my home country.? So, how do I get
quality and low prices at the same time?
NADCAP has been explored as a possible way to help insure quality boards
or components, even when periodic audits cannot be run. Besides quality,
there is outright counterfeit production - components, as well as bare
boards and assembled boards.?
I know IPC has faced pressure to set up an audit organization.? UL and
other safety organizations have been suggested, as well as test
laboratories with locations off shore.? Even suppliers of chemistry,
like my company, have been approached to "police" the processing of
boards in the chemistry we sell.?
So far, no system has been implemented that works well.?
What positive suggestions do TechNet readers have that can be carried to
implementation, and enforcement?? One IPC Blue Ribbon committee,
reporting to the TAEC Group, would like your imputs.
Denny Fritz
MacDermid, Inc
TAEC Committee member at IPC.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Sewell <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: [TN] What is NADCAP ?
Haven't dealt with it too much...
National Aerospace & Defense Contractors Accreditation Program, was
initially conceived by the Department of Defense as a means to control
cost and ensure consistent aerospace product and process quality...
More focus on "special processes, systems and products". Goes into
process and product detail whereas a QMS such as ISO 9001 or AS9100 are
higher level.
Value? If your customers require it and you want to be in that market,
you choose to comply.
Who? "Prime aerospace contractors who are trying to reduce cost"
that's the propaganda. The alternative is the prime or delegate has to
come onsite and approve you/issue a variance for that part/process if
they are requiring NADCAP certification.
FWIW,
Mike
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:49 PM
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Subject: [TN] What is NADCAP ?
What is NADCAP ?
I was able to look-up _www.pri-network.org_ (http://www.pri-network.org)
,
IS this just one more circuss to create paperwork nightmare for PCB
supliers.
I mean we have
MIL-Spec (This is global certification...DESC travels internationally
and
certifies suppliers)..,
AS9100 (another global acceptable std for aerospace),
IPC certifications (international std)
So Can the community help...what is the value of NADCAP and who is
driving
this ???
Rush
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