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I think the bigger issue here is "How can I be sure that I am getting quality boards from my supplier, (read that - from a location I can audit, but can't watch every day).?? The reality is that buying boards at attractive prices, means that they come from offshore, a much harder place to control quality than in my home country.? So, how do I get quality and low prices at the same time?

NADCAP has been explored as a possible way to help insure quality boards or components, even when periodic audits cannot be run. Besides quality, there is outright counterfeit production - components, as well as bare boards and assembled boards.? 

I know IPC has faced pressure to set up an audit organization.? UL and other safety organizations have been suggested, as well as test laboratories with locations off shore.? Even suppliers of chemistry, like my company, have been approached to "police" the processing of boards in the chemistry we sell.? 

So far, no system has been implemented that works well.? 

What positive suggestions do TechNet readers have that can be carried to implementation, and enforcement?? One IPC Blue Ribbon committee, reporting to the TAEC Group, would like your imputs. 

Denny Fritz
MacDermid, Inc
TAEC Committee member at IPC. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Sewell <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: [TN] What is NADCAP ?



Haven't dealt with it too much...

National Aerospace & Defense Contractors Accreditation Program, was
initially conceived by the Department of Defense as a means to control
cost and ensure consistent aerospace product and process quality...

More focus on "special processes, systems and products".  Goes into
process and product detail whereas a QMS such as ISO 9001 or AS9100 are
higher level.

Value?  If your customers require it and you want to be in that market,
you choose to comply.  

Who?  "Prime aerospace contractors who are trying to reduce cost"
that's the propaganda.  The alternative is the prime or delegate has to
come onsite and approve you/issue a variance for that part/process if
they are requiring NADCAP certification. 

FWIW,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:49 PM
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Subject: [TN] What is NADCAP ?

What is NADCAP ?
 
I was able to look-up _www.pri-network.org_ (http://www.pri-network.org)
,
 
IS this just one more  circuss to create paperwork nightmare for PCB
supliers.
 
I mean we have 
MIL-Spec (This is global  certification...DESC travels internationally
and 
certifies suppliers).., 
AS9100 (another global  acceptable std for aerospace),   
IPC certifications  (international std)
 
So Can the community  help...what is the value of NADCAP and who is
driving 
this  ???
 

Rush



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