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Thank you all, so far I am able to get much lesser void in QFN as
compared to LGA. LGA is headache as once a while one of the pads/joints
will has a void of about (less/more) 30%. Thank again.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Burke
Sent: Friday, 29 August 2008 9:37 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] LGA/QFN voids %

I agree Rex,

For QFN parts the issue is generally thermal and /or signal to ground
noise
related rather that "mechanical" or "current capacity" related.

They are indeed interesting devices for low I/O applications. I have
been
using them in designs for around 5 or 6 years now with no issues
although a
high res X-ray always comes in handy.....8-)

John

John Burke

(408) 515 4992

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rex Waygood
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:33 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] LGA/QFN voids %

I have just had to deal with a video chip which gets exceedingly hot
where the part is qualified down to 50% coverage/void of the thermal
pad.
If a standard comes about then the standard having a tighter requirement
than the part is qualified for by the manufacturer doesn't make much
sense to me.
Regards
Rex
:-)


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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bernard, David
Sent: 29 August 2008 09:08
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] LGA/QFN voids %

There are no standards/guidelines at this time, although the IPC has
recently convened a task group to put one together along the lines of
the IPC7095 for BGAs. 

 

Bob Willis and I have advocated a maximum of 20% voiding (whether by a
single void or multiple voids) in either the central or edge
terminations when viewed by x-ray inspection. However, some people may
define a higher total percentage voiding as acceptable (say 30%,
especially within the central termination) but with the extra proviso
that no single void should exceed perhaps 5 or 10%. This appears to be
more of concern for devices that require the ability to dissipate a
larger quantity of heat and the presence of any large voids may affect
this efficiency.

 

At the end of the day, however, without the any formal limit defined in
IPC610D, or other documents, then I would suggest that you should
negotiate an acceptable limit between yourself and your customer.

 

David

 

Dr. David Bernard 

Product Manager X-ray Systems 

Dage Precision Industries 

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United Kingdom 

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www.dage-group.com 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tan Geok Ang
Sent: 29 August 2008 02:32
Subject: LGA/QFN voids %

 

Hi All,

             Need you expertise in advising the maxi. allowable void %
in

LGA and QFN. Does any standard state this requirement?

                        Thank and have a nice day!

 

Regards

GA Tan

 

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