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Good practice, Joe. But do you store the baked PWBs in a dessicator or
nitrogen purge box after baking during that 2-week period prior to
assembly and reflow? Or dry-pack them with a MIC inside a sealed MBB if
you cannot assemble and reflow them immediately?
Most FR-4 types will regain 100% of their fully-saturated moisture
weight within 3 or 4 days if left exposed to RH around 40%. Some
polyimide PWBs will regain 100% of their saturated weight within 6
hours.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Macko
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Moisture in PCB Assemblies

Denny,

We have always treated FR4 PCBs as moistures sensitive and baked them
out before reflow to be safe. Everyone has there own idea about bake out
time and temperature and most CMs do consider the PCB moisture
sensitive. We bake for 5-6 hrs at 110 C. Boards are generally used
within 2-weeks of bake out.

Best Regards,
-joe



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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dennis Fritz
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Moisture in PCB Assemblies

Bill, 

There has been some speculation that with the higher assembly
temperatures of lead-free, that PCBs should have a Moisture Sensitivity
Level - just like the components being mounted on them.? However, I
don't think JEDEC will step up to the plate to adopt anything to do with
PCBs.? So, it would be the job of the IPC to do that.? 

With the upcoming IPC meeting in late September, Schaumburg, Illionois,
now would be a good time to debate the need for circuit board MSL
levels. As pointed out, the group working on Storage and Handling will
go a long way, but moisture absorbsion propensity is also a property of
the resin/glass composition of the board.? 

How about it TechNetters?

Denny Fritz
MacDermid, Inc. 


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Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 7:19 pm
Subject: [TN] Moisture in PCB Assemblies



Fellow TechNetters:? I was asked a question by a valued customer if
there is any other references made to moisture in raw PCBs and populated
assemblies other than the J-STD-033 and also the IPC rework standards.?
I've looked in IPC Standards I have on file however I could not find any
references/guidlelines at all.? Can anyone out there shed some light on
this???

I thank you folks in advance for your efforts on my behalf.

Bill Black
Medco
Q.A. Manager
Tel:? 631-667-9699

E-Mail:? [log in to unmask]

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