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Scoot, you are right, but quite a number of them still are unaware of
this is happening in China.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scott Westheimer
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 5:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] looking for ENiG photos

What is the cost of quality? Even shops in China are board brokers. It
is not uncommon for a shop to take an order and subcontract it to
another shop. This actually happens more than you think. The shop that
brokered the parts out will than receives the boards back and ships them
onto their customer. Most of the time the shops that are actually making
the boards are not given the fabrication drawing so that they can not go
direct and try and steal the end customer.Scott B. Westheimer5709 Clarks
Fork DriveRaleigh, NC [log in to unmask]:
(919)713-0748Cell NC: (919)961-5364 > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:45:35
-0500> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [TN] looking for
ENiG photos> To: [log in to unmask]> > We put a lot of money and effort
into material and finish selections in the > RoHS chageover.> > We have
strict specifications on our fabrication drawings.> > We have previously
fully qualified 3 high volume and 2 prototype PCBs, and > maintain them
in a world wide AVL.> > but purchasing sees pennies.............> > This
is just a proposed vendor - only sample quantites assembled, we haven't
> ordered anything yet (I hope).> > So far the proposed vendor has:>
claimed to be a fabricator, but is actually a broker> fabricated at two
shops, neither was included in the site visits or D&amp;Bs> switched the
laminate we approved (twice)> changed layer spacing> used some alien
plating material> performed microsectioning and solder testing on a
non-RoHS PCB, but shipped > a completely different (hopefully RoHS)
panel> The other (passed) microsection showed innerlayer separation.>
Shipped PCBs with soldermask on pads.> > Best scenario is that this
finally wakes purchasing up to what I've been telling > them about
buying boards in China. Worst case is - they buy these anyway.> >
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