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Slightly off-topic - There are some relatively inexpensive USB
microscopes out there that go to 200x.  Has anyone tried these?  I'm
working on a project right now where I need to inspect things down in
the .001" range and funding is low.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/923a/ for $200
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/9955/ for $350

--Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:49 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Trinocular Scope With Display

Joe,
That is quite an ambitious range!  Why don't you start with seeing what
you can do for circuit packs and component inspection and leave
component FA for another day?  To do the latter you better have deeeeep
pockets, because you will need more than what I am going to suggest!

We have:
1) Nikon Eclipse MA100 metallurgical microscope with a Digital Sight
Ds-Fi1 Camera.  Images are brought up on any CRT or LCD screen of a
computer married to the scope system.
2) Hirox KH-7700 digital microscope with an endoscope, plus a MX-10C
(high power lens), a lower power lens (number obscured by support rod)
and an MX 5030RZ II lens for angle viewing.  These four lenses are all
on different stands and have an interchangeable 14 MB camera which gives
awesome images on the monitor. 

None of the above is tri or even binocular.  The former is mono plus the
display and the latter only has display.

Bev
RIM

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kane, Joseph E (US
SSA)
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:16 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] Trinocular Scope With Display

I may have an opportunity to put together a decent inspection station
for our lab.  The choices out there have my head spinning, maybe some of
you have experience or recommendations to share.  Not sure what we'll
have to spend, but this system will be used partly for customer
presentations, so I'm hoping we can do it up right.

This would be used for everything from FA on components, to solder
inspection on boards, to looking inside small chassis.  Need capability
for image capture, and maybe a nice big screen so others in the room
could see.

Optics - Trinocular, zoom, good depth of field/working distance,
magnification from about 5-7x up to about 40-50x.  Some have a lever
that disables one of the binocular eyepieces whenever you want the
camera to work, and I think this is a pain.  In the archives I saw a
recommendation for a Meiji EMZ-8TR - any others?  What about a 0.5x
objective lens to increase working distance?

Stand - Articulating, single or double boom arm?  Counterweight?
Swivel?  Biggest pain I've had is adjusting the Z height easily.
Usually you have to release the slip ring, lower it, retighten, then
release the head, and drop it down on the slip ring, sometimes heavily.
Is there any easier way to adjust?

Screen - maybe around 40".  LCD, so no burn-in.

Camera - CCD or CMOS?  Resolution?  Output?  What about Sony?  Some
might think we'd be better off with a good hi-res digital still camera.
C-mount?  Either way, is it realistic to expect that the image would be
close to what we see through the eyepieces?

Lighting - Probably a ring light and moveable fiber optic arms.
Anything new being done with LED's?  Polarization?  Any hints for
picking up tin whiskers?

Image Capture - Any special kind of card in the PC?  Software?  Probably
output in bitmap, convert to JPG.  Don't need PhotoShop, but some basic
image processing will be helpful.

Joe Kane
BAE Systems
Johnson City, NY

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