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someone talked about indifference......
the thing is you ARE smart enough.
Wish you a nice day, despite you are in California...he-he 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dwight Mattix
Sent: den 30 maj 2008 15:43
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] [NTC] An unfortunate sign of things to come...

Well ya'll can contemplate the end of the world, the end of civilization
as we know it, your navels or whatever other morbid introspection pop
science prophets have put in the popular mind.

I'm not smart enough for all that stuff.  I just want to see the USA...

drill here
drill now
pay less

<http://www.americansolutions.com/actioncenter/petitions/?Guid=54ec6e43-
75a8-445b-aa7b-346a1e096659>link

Too bad hippies are protected species here. We've got enough fruits and
nuts BTUs stored in that form locally to power California for a decade
or two...


At 06:20 AM 5/30/2008, Guy Ramsey wrote:
>I remember, back in the 60's in grade school watching film called "Our 
>Mister Sun". It was produced by Bell Labs for schools to encourage kids

>to study science and math. In it the process of photosynthesis was show

>as the means of storing energy that we were consuming, as a society, 
>faster than it could possibly be produced. It promoted exploration of 
>alternative energy sources, solar, wind, surf and nuclear. As I recall 
>it even discussed, however briefly, the possible consequences of 
>releasing the carbon stored over many hundreds of millions of years
back into the atmosphere.
>
>The national treasure once known as Bell Labs was identified as a 
>monopoly about 15 years later. It wasn't long until we began to 
>practice Voodoo economics in earnest. I think Daniel Patrick Moynihan 
>termed it "eating our seed corn".
>
>It could get pretty dark if we don't solve the problem.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dale Ritzen
>Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:46 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] An unfortunate sign of things to come...
>
>Well, the Roman Empire "Pax Romana" (aka booming Mediterranean economy)

>was only around for a brief 400+ years or so before they got shellacked

>by the Visigoths. The "Dark Ages" followed shortly thereafter (aka no 
>economy), followed by the Renaissance period (the rebirth of the middle

>class) in Europe. The U.S. (in various forms) has been around since 
>1776. That's a mere 230+ years. Think we're starting to level off 
>before we start our spiral downward? As Inge implies below, the growing
gap between the "haves"
>and "have nots" (read: downsizing of the middle class) in the U.S. is 
>not a good indication that recovery is on the way.
>
>So, the decline of the "Pax Americana" will leave, what? Who or what 
>steps into that gap? Or are we doomed to repeat another round of "Dark
Ages"
>around the world before another "light" breaks through somewhere...
>
>There are a number of us over here in the U.S. that share your concern,

>Inge. We hope to start doing something about that in November of this
year.
>
>Dale Ritzen, CQA
>Quality Manager/ISO Management Representative Austin Manufacturing 
>Services
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hernefjord Ingemar [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:51 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] An unfortunate sign of things to come...
>
>you may call it levelling, the US can't be the economy wonderland for
ever.
>35 million living in  poverty is one sign of declination. The resources

>exist still, but inspiration and trust seems to be little shaky  these
days.
>'The richest nation in the world'..richest on what?
>Not critisizing, just worried.
>Inge
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of R Sedlak
>Sent: den 28 maj 2008 18:39
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [TN] An unfortunate sign of things to come...
>
>I urge all to review this article, it is a sign of what lays ahead, and

>likely the first of many such steps.  It will affect us all in our 
>industry, profoundly.
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080528/ap_on_bi_ge/dow_price_increase
>
>Rudy Sedlak
>
>
>
>
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