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I don't want to get into whose definition is more correct but I would

like to ask if anyone can give ballpark percentages on the occurrences

of BP and BF's for different surface finishes:



ENIG Surface Finish		Alternative Surface Finishes (OSP & IAg)



BP		BF			BP			BF



X %		Y %			0 %			Z %



If the sum of X% and Y% is much greater than Z% then why would anyone

continue to use ENIG?



I assume that those who have been using ENIG and have not experienced BP

or BF's want to continue using ENIG.







Regards,

George

George M. Wenger

Andrew Wireless Solutions

Senior Principal FMA / Reliability Engineer

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-----Original Message-----

From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Igoshev, Vladimir

Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:03 AM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [TN] [LF] [TN] SN100 for Reflow Application



Hi Werner,



 



That is obviously your choice but I'd prefer to stick with mine :-)



 



I still think that BP and BF are two completely different phenomena and

the fact that BF occurs not just on ENIG boards, but with almost all

other finishes (of cause only for Pb-free solders) makes me think that

I'm right. 



 



Be careful with using/interpreting EDS for fracture surfaces. It's NOT

that straight forward.



 



Regards,



 



Vladimir



 



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From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 

Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:05 AM

To: Igoshev, Vladimir; [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [TN] [LF] [TN] SN100 for Reflow Application



 



Hi Vladimir,

For BP I am really only concerned about the surface, so EDS is

fine--after all it is the interface surface that is weak. 

Cavitation (as a ME that word bothers me because cavitation is what a

propeller does in water) is a sign of the P notdoing its job.

So I stand by my definition.







Werner Engelmaier

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Schaumburg

Failure Mode and Root Cause Analyses Reliability (Fatigue, Brittle

Fracture, ENIG), September 22, Schaumburg







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