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Dear Valdimir,

Can you please clarify your E-mail below? Do you think I may be dealing with black pad?



Regards,

From: Igoshev, Vladimir [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:55 AM

To: [log in to unmask]; Kane, Amol (349)

Subject: Re: [LF] [TN] SN100 for Reflow Application





Hi Amol,



The thickness of intermetallic layer does not indicate whether you might deal with BP or not, but the fact that you got laminate cracks does.



Regards,



Vladimiir



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Sent: Wed Jun 18 10:33:12 2008

Subject: Re: [LF] [TN] SN100 for Reflow Application



Hi Pete,

We will not be using the DICY cured laminate in a LF process. It wont withstand LF process temperatures. yes, we did observe a P rich area and a rough Ni surface. However, a presence of a thick intermetallic layer rules out black pad. it does reflect a plating bath that Is potentially unbalanced wrt the chemical composition. However, the SnPb version of the board is also ENIG and from the same board supplier. Therefore all things being equal (plating wise), we see cracks only with the LF assembly.



All the obvious SMT process steps (Solder deposition, solder ht, reflow temps etc.,) were checked to ensure accuracy.



Regards,

Amol





-----Original Message-----

From: Pete Houwen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:53 AM

To: [log in to unmask]; Kane, Amol (349)

Subject: Re: [TN] SN100 for Reflow Application



Amol,



If you are joints that much more prone to failure, don't rule out your process

just because they aren't failing during the process.



Are these ENiG plated boards?  When you did your cross sections, did you do

any analysis of the interfacial?  Are you getting P-enriched zones?  Are there

voids - large or micro, in the joints or balls?  Are the soldermask openings and

registration the same on both versions?  Do you inspect the paste deposition

to make sure the stencil is releasing the lead free solder as it did with tin/lead?



While the fractures aren't showing up until you apply mechanical stress, the

process itself could be weakening the joints, and that doesn't always show up

on all of the balls, or even the same ones consistently.  Though pad cratering

indicates that at least at those pads, the joint was stronger than the laminate.



Be careful using dicy cured epoxies with lead free process temperatures.  A

whole 'nother can o' worms.



Pete









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