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Sounds like John, like the rest of us, has a load of information to dump and not enough time to do it at one time...

Paul

Paul Edwards
Surface Art Engineering

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jack Olson
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:28 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] FAB:CAD2CAM

I would rather take the time to get a comprehensive
understanding of what the industry is doing,
and THEN try to share it with my colleagues,

so...

there is no schedule or deadline.

(but I don't mind sharing what I already have,
if anyone wants to discuss it)

why do you ask?

Jack
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On 5/14/08, John Parsons <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Jack,
>
> What's your timeline on this?
>
> Regards
>
> John Parsons
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jack Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:29 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] FAB:CAD2CAM
>
> I've recently had the opportunity to spend some time with "the CAM guy" at
> our primary circuit board supplier, and now a magazine has expressed an
> interest in publishing an article about what happens to data as it moves
> from CAD through CAM. If any of you are involved in this process, here is
> a golden opportunity to voice your concerns (or your "wish list"). I
> already
> have my notes for what happens to OUR data, but I would like to be more
> generic for the magazine.
>
> If you aren't doing CAM work but know someone who might like a shot at
> this,
> PLEASE forward this to them.
>
> The most surprising thing I learned this week was the extremely low
> percentage of jobs being submitted in an intelligant format. For example,
> we've been told for years to move to something like ODB++ or GENCAM, but
> I'm
> hearing that maybe only a few percent of the jobs are anything other than
> regular old Gerber. Is that true? Would it help you significantly to get
> some alternative to Gerber?
>
> I'm also interested to hear anyone's thoughts on the note that can be found
> on many drawings that says:
> "DATA SHALL NOT BE MODIFIED WITHOUT WRITTEN APPROVAL".
> Where do we draw the line on that?
> Plot film with data "AS IS"?
> How does it apply to
> etch compensation?
> removal of non-functional pads?
> teardropping?
> silkscreen clipping?
> What is "standard" editing, and what really should be pre-approved?
>
> We've been told to always place the origin on a tooling hole. Does it
> really
> matter?
> Would you rather have the soldermask 1:1 with the pad size and enlarge it
> yourself?
> Would it help you much to have positive planes drawn with unique aperture
> sizes?
> Does the format matter? inches? metric? consistent with drill?
> Would it help to have better README files that explain more of our
> intentions?
> (like a known netlist discrepancy, for example)
>
> What do you wish more people would do to make your life easier?
>
> Maybe its inconvenient to answer so many questions, but if we have a chance
> to teach designers what we want, shouldn't we try?
> (I'm gonna write it with you or without you, so don't complain if what gets
> published is off-grid)
> Also, If I didn't ask the question you want to answer, don't hesitate to
> add
> to the list!
>
> If YOU were King of the World for a day, what would you change?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> I'll try my best to write a fair and thorough article
>
> Jack
> [log in to unmask]
>
>

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