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Mike Fenner <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 9 May 2008 10:58:06 +0100
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There is an alternative vernacular meaning to 'Skive' in British English:
Its a pejorative term for some one not doing something they should. Or
secondarily doing something they shouldn't.
If some one skives off a task it means they are dodging it, making them a
skiver. So by a small stretch I [mis] understood what it meant fairly
clearly! 
If you were to say the solder is skiving off in conversation, you would be
saying it is not working or is going to a place or doing something it
shouldn't. 

It could be there was a Brit on the panel and in the discussion he just said
to himself it's skiving off then, and someone wrote it down thinking it was
a precise technical term!  Whatever ....it's not a word you would expect to
see written in a formal document. 

Regards 

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey (EHCOE)
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:17 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] The meaning of "skived"

I am already pushing for some other changes to IPC-A-600 and this is IMHO an
incorrect usage of the term. I am not sure of the time frame, but we'll get
to yours briefly.
Dewey

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Genny Gibbard
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:46 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] The meaning of "skived"

So which ones of you are on the IPC-A-600 committee?
You can consider editing this for the next rev.  Because "skived" is the
word used.

Have a good day, eh? (from another Canadian) 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
(EHCOE)
Sent: May 8, 2008 12:00 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] The meaning of "skived"

I am more used to the term skiving as it relates to compliant pins being
pushed into Tin-lead plated-through holes. The skiving results in FOD. 
I think thieving is more in-line with what you are referring to.
Dewey

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Genny Gibbard
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:34 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] The meaning of "skived"

Can anyone define "skived" as in:
IPC-A-600      2.9.3.3   Ball Grid Array (Solder Dam)

"....in order to avoid solder being skived from the attachment joint into
the via."

Online dictionaries define skive as:	to slice off (leather, rubber,
etc.) in thin layers; shave.

It sort of gives me an idea, but it really isn't very clear.
Thanks in advance.

Genny 

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