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You're welcome.

No.  It is both surface mount and through-hole.  But it has a number of 
modern SMT technologies.  I will send you a picture of the board.

Joe Russeau

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Schaefer, Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] Hand Cleaning Chemistry Qualification


Thanks Joe.

I have yet to see is the B-52 board all surface mount?

Chris



Chris Schaefer
Suntron Corporation
Process Engineer

800 N. Brutscher Street
Newberg, OR 97132
Work Phone: 503.554.6270
Cell Phone: 785.248.9016
Email: [log in to unmask]

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Russeau [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:09 AM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Schaefer, Chris
Subject: Re: [TN] Hand Cleaning Chemistry Qualification

Hi Chris,

Perhaps, I'm reading your post incorrectly, but it comes across (at
least to
me) that you are wanting to know what changes you should make to your
process in order to get the best result from the cleaner.  Really, you
should be focused on whether the cleaner removes the soils left by your
process. If it doesn't, then perhaps it's not the right cleaner.

As for methods, you indicate three techniques that will be of value for
evaluating the cleaner and any residual process residues / chemical
interactions.  Here are a few quick suggestions (take em for what they
are
worth):

1) Select a test vehicle for SIR and/or ECM that closely matches your
assembly technology.  A functional assembly will not work for this type
of testing.  The IPC-B-52 would be one good choice.  It also has
breakaway coupons for IC testing.  Two drawbacks; 1) it is a little
expensive and 2) it does not have an extensive data history.  Doug Pauls
designed the B-52 and will likely comment.  The IC portion of your
testing could also be done on functional product.

2)  Process the boards as you would normally do.  The cleaner needs to
prove that it can remove your assembly and fabrication residues and not
leave harmful materials behind. If you have several processes and
materials, choose one that is representative of most of your product or
one that represents a worse-case scenario.

3) If you are doing any conformal coating, then it may be advisable to
also to include thermal shock, just to verify that adhesion and coating
properties do not change as a result of this new cleaner.

4) Visual inspections should be done.

5)  I would also suggest doing a comparative study to your current
material.
This will allow you to evaluate how the new stuff compares with the
stuff your replacing.

6) If you use ROSE testing to monitor the process on a regular basis, it
would be a very good idea to include this as part of your test matrix.
I would suggest processing enough samples to do ROSE testing (use your
own tester), along with the IC, SIR and or ECM.  This will help you
establish a baseline for your ROSE tester while qualifying the new
cleaner at the same time.

7) Always, always, always, send samples of the unprocessed boards and
components to act as controls.  If I had a nickel for every test I've
seen where the customer doesn't include the unprocessed boards, I'm sure
I could almost pay off my diet Mt. Dew tab to Doug.

Anyway, just a few thoughts to help get the ball rolling.  I'm sure
others will comment and make suggestions.

Best Regards,

Joe Russeau
Precision Analytical Laboratory, Inc.





----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Schaefer" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:58 PM
Subject: [TN] Hand Cleaning Chemistry Qualification


TechTeam,

We are in the very beginning stages of starting a conversion from one
hand
cleaning solvent to another more effective one. I am curious what makes
the
most sense in terms of methods to use to qualify as well as what is the
likely
norm from the industry? We are required to perform SIR or ECM, and IC
testing
by various customers prior to any changes which I think is a good thing,
but
what would be the application process of flux, soldering, and finally
cleaning?
As well as the actual soldering and cleaning process. With the various
geometries, spacing, ground planes, thermal requirements, materials,
time,
etc... How would best capture the effectiveness of the new solvent? We
are
currently using an RMA 15% solid flux, hand soldering with 600-700dgree
tips
on multi-layer product from FR4 to teflon. I hope I didn't open a huge
can-o-
worms.

Thanks all and have a great day!

Chris

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